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Wasn't the price of these implementations one of the factors for the (symbolic) AI winter? I would say it's just karma.
by Shorel 4y ago
Wasn't the price of these implementations one of the factors for the (symbolic) AI winter?
I would say it's just karma.
- lispm 4y agoThese implementations survived the AI Winter, despite their high prices. A lot of the cheaper commercial implementations did not survive or did not thrive: Corman Lisp (now open source, but not used much), Golden Common Lisp, Exper Common Lisp, Procycon Common Lisp (got bought by Franz), MuLisp, Macintosh Common Lisp, ...
- jdougan 4y agoIsn't MCL now Clozure CL?
- lispm 4y agoMCL was a commercial product (for a time even owned, developed by and sold by Apple directly) with an employed team working on it. Apple had a bunch of projects and tools using it. MCL had a manual, a GUI, support, etc. Clozure CL is the result of a project extracting/porting the bare CL implementation from MCL. It was open sourced. It got a GUI later, but never again had the polish and appeal of a product like Macintosh Common Lisp.
- forgotpwd16 4y agoNot at all. Both of those projects started inside the second AI winter. They can even be seen as an attempt to save Lisp after the market collapse for Lisp-specialized hardware. That said tooling for other contemporary languages was high as well back then. Won't be surprised if relatively to the total costs for them LispWorks and ACL were cheaper.