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The main issue here is the bioavailability of those proteins when digesting. red meat is 100% digested and bioavailable for all amino acid that are required fo

The main issue here is the bioavailability of those proteins when digesting. red meat is 100% digested and bioavailable for all amino acid that are required for life. Bio availability of protein in plant is far lower, and doesn’t cover the full amino-acid profile. But well, I worship Darwin and let the vegans dying from malnutrition. Latest story is that mother getting life sentence after killing her baby with vegan diet.

latexr 4y ago
> I worship Darwin and let the vegans dying from malnutrition. Please don’t be snarky.¹ Known athletes trivially disprove that claim.² ³ ¹ https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ² https://www.mensjournal.com/sports/nate-diaz-and-other-vegan-ufc-fighters-w199323/ https://www.mensjournal.com/sports/nate-diaz-and-other-vegan... ³ https://www.livekindly.com/vegan-athletes-swear-by-plants/ https://www.livekindly.com/vegan-athletes-swear-by-plants/
- kcplate 4y ago
  If it works for them, so be it. The one thing that this quite obvious with diet and nutrition is that there is no “one size fits all” diet for everyone.
- netmonk 4y ago
  You didn’t let them live enough long. Also please provide the complémentation list ( all the chemical they need to add into their daily diet to sustain this narrative). No need to cherry pick far right elements of the bell curve. For centuries diet poor in meat is associated with bad health, shorter life and multiple specific diseases. This topic is widely reported on old littérature from 17th 18th and 19th centuries. 0 meat diet is malnutrition whatever the artifice you use to hide it.
  - latexr 4y ago
    > You didn’t let them live enough long. Which cuts both ways. Neither of us know when they will die. > No need to cherry pick far right elements of the bell curve. Your comment specifically mentioned Darwin and dying. Most people will take that as quip on the “survival of the fittest” phrase, so I showed you examples of the fittest. > all the chemical they need to add into their daily diet Even if that were true, it does not support your point. Your claim was of malnutrition, you’re now shifting the goalpost to a value judgement on how that nutrition is ingested. All food is made up of chemical substances¹. > This topic is widely reported on old littérature from 17th 18th and 19th centuries. After asking for concrete data, your rebuttal is to offer none? I know we’re amidst a replication crisis², but a general hand wave to unspecified publications which don’t take into account the last century of science doesn’t advance the conversation. ¹ https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/topics/topic/chemicals-food https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/topics/topic/chemicals-food ² https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis

latexr 4y ago

> I worship Darwin and let the vegans dying from malnutrition. Please don’t be snarky.¹ Known athletes trivially disprove that claim.² ³ ¹ https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ² https://www.mensjournal.com/sports/nate-diaz-and-other-vegan-ufc-fighters-w199323/ https://www.mensjournal.com/sports/nate-diaz-and-other-vegan... ³ https://www.livekindly.com/vegan-athletes-swear-by-plants/ https://www.livekindly.com/vegan-athletes-swear-by-plants/

kcplate 4y ago
If it works for them, so be it. The one thing that this quite obvious with diet and nutrition is that there is no “one size fits all” diet for everyone.
netmonk 4y ago
You didn’t let them live enough long. Also please provide the complémentation list ( all the chemical they need to add into their daily diet to sustain this narrative). No need to cherry pick far right elements of the bell curve. For centuries diet poor in meat is associated with bad health, shorter life and multiple specific diseases. This topic is widely reported on old littérature from 17th 18th and 19th centuries. 0 meat diet is malnutrition whatever the artifice you use to hide it.
- latexr 4y ago
  > You didn’t let them live enough long. Which cuts both ways. Neither of us know when they will die. > No need to cherry pick far right elements of the bell curve. Your comment specifically mentioned Darwin and dying. Most people will take that as quip on the “survival of the fittest” phrase, so I showed you examples of the fittest. > all the chemical they need to add into their daily diet Even if that were true, it does not support your point. Your claim was of malnutrition, you’re now shifting the goalpost to a value judgement on how that nutrition is ingested. All food is made up of chemical substances¹. > This topic is widely reported on old littérature from 17th 18th and 19th centuries. After asking for concrete data, your rebuttal is to offer none? I know we’re amidst a replication crisis², but a general hand wave to unspecified publications which don’t take into account the last century of science doesn’t advance the conversation. ¹ https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/topics/topic/chemicals-food https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/topics/topic/chemicals-food ² https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis