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Are there fields (architects, engineers?) that take advantage of the the technical pen scaling? Or scanning software that is aware of the pen/paper ratios? Thi

Are there fields (architects, engineers?) that take advantage of the the technical pen scaling? Or scanning software that is aware of the pen/paper ratios? This seems like a great way to have some consistency in analog/digital conversions. It would be nice to have 10 years of digitized notes that all have consistent sizing after scanning.

Symbiote 4y ago
Architects and engineers certainly used to. Most engineering drawings are printed now, but presumably occasional modifications are still made by hand.
- dbelford 4y ago
  In another comment you mentioned easy scaling in a photocopier. And cylinder714 linked to a description of iso-paper that mentions an ISO (ISO 9175-1) for pens. Is there a term or place to search for pens sets that scale with A*/B* paper? Using the ISO or "technical pen" doesn't return obvious matches (from my US based search at least).
  - Symbiote 4y ago
    I searched "ISO drafting pens" and had several results, although none from the US or Canada. Wikipedia lists some manufacturers, and here are some online shops from my first couple of pages of results. I've never used the steel nibbed pens. My grandfather was a draughtsman, and had a complete set, but as I understood it (age 10-ish) they were delicate and needed to be used carefully. I wouldn't buy a complete set on a whim :-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_pen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_pen https://www.rotring.com/pens-pencils/technical-pens/isograph-drawing-pen/SAP_1903395.html https://www.rotring.com/pens-pencils/technical-pens/isograph... https://www.staedtler.com/intl/en/products/technical-drawing-instruments/technical-pens-drawing-ink/ https://www.staedtler.com/intl/en/products/technical-drawing... https://draftex.com.au/collection/pens-markers-inks/technical-drafting-pens https://draftex.com.au/collection/pens-markers-inks/technica... https://www.faber-castell.eu/products/TechnicalDrawingPenTG1S10mm/160001 https://www.faber-castell.eu/products/TechnicalDrawingPenTG1... (There were also Indian websites, so I'll bet there's China/Aliexpress too.)
    - dbelford 4y ago
      Wonderful, ISO-128 is exactly it and the wiki explains it perfectly. This seems like a fantastic sizing for pen sets. The 0.10, 0.13, 0.18, 0.25, 0.35, 0.50, 0.70, 1.0, 1.4, and 2.0 scale with √2. I couldn't tell if other sets were just rounding or dropping the hundredths place. The rotring and staedtler both offer sets in those increments. I suppose this is just common knowledge to those who need it.

Symbiote 4y ago

Architects and engineers certainly used to. Most engineering drawings are printed now, but presumably occasional modifications are still made by hand.

dbelford 4y ago
In another comment you mentioned easy scaling in a photocopier. And cylinder714 linked to a description of iso-paper that mentions an ISO (ISO 9175-1) for pens. Is there a term or place to search for pens sets that scale with A*/B* paper? Using the ISO or "technical pen" doesn't return obvious matches (from my US based search at least).
- Symbiote 4y ago
  I searched "ISO drafting pens" and had several results, although none from the US or Canada. Wikipedia lists some manufacturers, and here are some online shops from my first couple of pages of results. I've never used the steel nibbed pens. My grandfather was a draughtsman, and had a complete set, but as I understood it (age 10-ish) they were delicate and needed to be used carefully. I wouldn't buy a complete set on a whim :-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_pen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_pen https://www.rotring.com/pens-pencils/technical-pens/isograph-drawing-pen/SAP_1903395.html https://www.rotring.com/pens-pencils/technical-pens/isograph... https://www.staedtler.com/intl/en/products/technical-drawing-instruments/technical-pens-drawing-ink/ https://www.staedtler.com/intl/en/products/technical-drawing... https://draftex.com.au/collection/pens-markers-inks/technical-drafting-pens https://draftex.com.au/collection/pens-markers-inks/technica... https://www.faber-castell.eu/products/TechnicalDrawingPenTG1S10mm/160001 https://www.faber-castell.eu/products/TechnicalDrawingPenTG1... (There were also Indian websites, so I'll bet there's China/Aliexpress too.)
  - dbelford 4y ago
    Wonderful, ISO-128 is exactly it and the wiki explains it perfectly. This seems like a fantastic sizing for pen sets. The 0.10, 0.13, 0.18, 0.25, 0.35, 0.50, 0.70, 1.0, 1.4, and 2.0 scale with √2. I couldn't tell if other sets were just rounding or dropping the hundredths place. The rotring and staedtler both offer sets in those increments. I suppose this is just common knowledge to those who need it.