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Of the lead author of this critical letter, the article says: "In her initial correspondence with The Lancet, Stanton declared that she was a part-time employe
by gwerbret 4y ago
Of the lead author of this critical letter, the article says:
"In her initial correspondence with The Lancet, Stanton declared that she was a part-time employee of Devenish Nutrition, an agricultural-technology and animal-feed company in which she also holds shares."
- rgrieselhuber 4y agoIt is a conspiracy theory to associate commercial connections with scientific research and publications.
- davikr 4y agoIt certainly is a conflict of interest which should be stated.
- kspacewalk2 4y agoIt was stated: >In her initial correspondence with The Lancet, Stanton declared that she was a part-time employee of Devenish Nutrition, an agricultural-technology and animal-feed company in which she also holds shares. >One of the co-authors of the open letter, Christopher Elliott, of Queen’s, declared grants to his research institute from Devenish.
- colechristensen 4y agoIt's called a conflict of interest, and being worried about such conflicts is not paranoia, it is perfectly reasonable care. It adds quite a bit of doubt when the "truth" uncovered is particularly advantageous to the cause of the conflict.
- rgrieselhuber 4y agoI agree, my comment was sarcasm because this principle is not universally applied.
- endtime 4y agoI agree with your point, but FWIW, it didn't come through clearly in the original comment. Poe's Law strikes again!
- rgrieselhuber 4y agoI know, I'm used to it ;).
- MrPatan 4y agoAlmost downvoted you now for explaining it! What's better than getting the downvotes from the ones that get it and don't agree plus the ones that don't get it but would agree? Cheff kiss
- gruez 4y agoShould that matter much? Looking on their website it looks like they sell feeds for all sorts of animals, not just ones producing red meat. For most people, "not eating red meat" means eating pork/chicken not going vegan, so they don't stand to gain much from this study.
- tecleandor 4y agoYou'd be surprised to know that there are some other stuff holding proteins that's not meat. Like fish or chickpeas, or lentils, or beans, or seeds, or buts, or broccoli...
- gruez 4y agoRight, but are people likely to switch to those when they find out that red meat is bad? Or are they more likely to switch to pork/chicken? My previous comment doesn't say those protein sources don't exist, only that people are unlikely to switch to them.
- Bancakes 4y agoYes and you only need two dishes of it to get a chicken breast's worth.
- netmonk 4y agoThe main issue here is the bioavailability of those proteins when digesting. red meat is 100% digested and bioavailable for all amino acid that are required for life. Bio availability of protein in plant is far lower, and doesn’t cover the full amino-acid profile. But well, I worship Darwin and let the vegans dying from malnutrition. Latest story is that mother getting life sentence after killing her baby with vegan diet.
- latexr 4y ago> I worship Darwin and let the vegans dying from malnutrition. Please don’t be snarky.¹ Known athletes trivially disprove that claim.² ³ ¹ https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ² https://www.mensjournal.com/sports/nate-diaz-and-other-vegan-ufc-fighters-w199323/ https://www.mensjournal.com/sports/nate-diaz-and-other-vegan... ³ https://www.livekindly.com/vegan-athletes-swear-by-plants/ https://www.livekindly.com/vegan-athletes-swear-by-plants/
- jimmygrapes 4y agoTo me this suggests there is some motivation to do research on the subject, compared to someone who has no interest in the topic. At least disclosure of potential bias was acknowledged up front.
- shzusnwxbwj 4y ago
- naasking 4y ago> To me this suggests there is some motivation to do research on the subject, compared to someone who has no interest in the topic. Research isn't done by people who have no interest in a topic.
- verisimi 4y agoYes, unacceptable. Would you agree that that it is also a conflict of interest if you are head of a scientific establishment in charge of making decisions that impact millions, and that the person responsible for judging the ethical dimensions of your actions, is your wife? cough Fauci cough
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