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I don't understand it. Some of the people posting comments on this topic are acting extremely pompous. The word 'programmer' on a resume does not mean you're in

I don't understand it. Some of the people posting comments on this topic are acting extremely pompous. The word 'programmer' on a resume does not mean you're in a elite club or society. It means what the job title implies: a programmer is someone who writes computer programs. There are all different variations of skill level though, just like in any profession.

mattdeboard 15y ago
I am very surprised confused and disappointed at the parochialism here.
- vkatluri 15y ago
  It's probably because you scare them. Here are people who have spent several years in school to gain a certificate that shows they know how to program. You may never be a competition to them in the job market but the knowledge that someone spent close to 12 weeks (not even a semester) and was able to land a basic job programming is probably rubbing their sense of entitlement the wrong way. Me personally, I have a M.S. in Computer Science but I work with a group of people, who, with sheer will and hard work, are in much better programming situation than I am. Not everybody gets to, or needs to, write a compiler or an operating system. Most of the applications are crud applications. Just because you are not of Linus Torvald's caliber doesn't mean that you are not a programmer.
  - cantbecool 15y ago
    I share your sentiment. It's disrupting their entire way of thinking regarding the programming field. It would be amazing to get to the level of programming enlightenment to be able to create a compiler or kernel, though. That's a goal of mine with-in a decade.
  - jarek 15y ago
    I am certain most HN readers who are expressing negative sentiments here and who have spent several years in school feel very threatened by a Django coder.
    - vkatluri 15y ago
      I don't want to get too personal but do you go about your life this negatively and sarcastically all the time? How sad it must be.
      - jarek 15y ago
        Pretty much, yeah. I'm sure it would be much more fun if I could get excited about 12 weeks of Django, but that's just not the kind of person I am :)
- donaq 15y ago
  Don't be too surprised or confused. There are a lot of very bright people here, but remember that being bright in one area doesn't necessarily mean they'd be bright in other areas, or nice, or humble. I guess someone who spent n years working at their craft and feels that he earned the title "programmer" might get offended when some young punk says he learned how to program in 12 days. I don't feel that way but I can understand why someone else might. I think if you had said something like "How I learned enough about programming to get a job doing it in 12 weeks", they might have been more encouraging (though it would have sucked as a title!). I think it was the title more than anything else that put them off. And don't be too disappointed. I think the majority of the people here aren't nasty. They might have said some not so nice things in a moment of pique for the above reason, but the nice thing about HN is that most of us do try to be objective and helpful. Don't be surprised if in another thread, the very same people who dissed you here praise you, help you or openly agree with you. I usually don't even notice usernames when replying or voting on posts. Lastly, congratulations on taking a very big step on the same path most of us here are on. The path is long and difficult at times, but infinitely rewarding. Welcome to the club.

mattdeboard 15y ago

I am very surprised confused and disappointed at the parochialism here.

vkatluri 15y ago
It's probably because you scare them. Here are people who have spent several years in school to gain a certificate that shows they know how to program. You may never be a competition to them in the job market but the knowledge that someone spent close to 12 weeks (not even a semester) and was able to land a basic job programming is probably rubbing their sense of entitlement the wrong way. Me personally, I have a M.S. in Computer Science but I work with a group of people, who, with sheer will and hard work, are in much better programming situation than I am. Not everybody gets to, or needs to, write a compiler or an operating system. Most of the applications are crud applications. Just because you are not of Linus Torvald's caliber doesn't mean that you are not a programmer.
- cantbecool 15y ago
  I share your sentiment. It's disrupting their entire way of thinking regarding the programming field. It would be amazing to get to the level of programming enlightenment to be able to create a compiler or kernel, though. That's a goal of mine with-in a decade.
- jarek 15y ago
  I am certain most HN readers who are expressing negative sentiments here and who have spent several years in school feel very threatened by a Django coder.
  - vkatluri 15y ago
    I don't want to get too personal but do you go about your life this negatively and sarcastically all the time? How sad it must be.
    - jarek 15y ago
      Pretty much, yeah. I'm sure it would be much more fun if I could get excited about 12 weeks of Django, but that's just not the kind of person I am :)
donaq 15y ago
Don't be too surprised or confused. There are a lot of very bright people here, but remember that being bright in one area doesn't necessarily mean they'd be bright in other areas, or nice, or humble. I guess someone who spent n years working at their craft and feels that he earned the title "programmer" might get offended when some young punk says he learned how to program in 12 days. I don't feel that way but I can understand why someone else might. I think if you had said something like "How I learned enough about programming to get a job doing it in 12 weeks", they might have been more encouraging (though it would have sucked as a title!). I think it was the title more than anything else that put them off. And don't be too disappointed. I think the majority of the people here aren't nasty. They might have said some not so nice things in a moment of pique for the above reason, but the nice thing about HN is that most of us do try to be objective and helpful. Don't be surprised if in another thread, the very same people who dissed you here praise you, help you or openly agree with you. I usually don't even notice usernames when replying or voting on posts. Lastly, congratulations on taking a very big step on the same path most of us here are on. The path is long and difficult at times, but infinitely rewarding. Welcome to the club.