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Yes, that attempt to EEE the web was thwarted thankfully.

smoldesu 4y ago
Right. If the government hadn't stepped in to encourage Microsoft to play nice, we might live in a world where "the web" simply means Internet Explorer. I'm beyond the point of negotiating with the people on this website. Apple is due in for exactly the same treatment, it's only a matter of time before the US eats their favorite crow.
- fezfight 4y ago
  If it wasnt clear in my reply, I agree with you. But as an aside, don't let this site get to you too much. There's a lot of arguing for sport that goes on here.
- aaaaaaaaaaab 4y ago
  Instead we live in a world where the web means Chrome. How wonderful!
  - fezfight 4y ago
    They usurped the minds a generation with free email and YouTube.
- KerrAvon 4y ago
  Look, as someone who was rooting for MS to lose big time back then, I would have been happy for that to be true. But MS lost through hubris, not the antitrust settlement.
- GekkePrutser 4y ago
  > If the government hadn't stepped in to encourage Microsoft to play nice, we might live in a world where "the web" simply means Internet Explorer. I kinda doubt that. As soon as Microsoft had a virtual monopoly on the browser market, they let IE go stale for years. Hardly any feature development, hardly any bug squashing. Terrible security. By the time the browser choice thing in the EU and the antitrust thing in the US happened, the rot had already set in and everyone was fed up and yearning for a browser that didn't suck. Google drove their Chrome truck right into that gap. If IE had actually been a decent browser, no amount of "choose your browser" screens would have been enough to sway people from it. Just like they cling to Chrome now because Google is too smart to make that mistake. PS FWIW I don't like and hardly use chrome but technically as a browser it's great, I just don't like Google's attitude to privacy.
- pjmlp 4y ago
  Phyrric victory, modern Web simply means ChromeOS rebranded.
pjmlp 4y ago
WebAssembly....
- jchw 4y ago
  WebAssembly is an open standard and I don't really see how it's any bigger a problem than asm.js or obfuscated JS already was.
  - fezfight 4y ago
    Agreed! Would be nice to reverse the tide on that stuff though. C'est la vie.

Right. If the government hadn't stepped in to encourage Microsoft to play nice, we might live in a world where "the web" simply means Internet Explorer. I'm beyond the point of negotiating with the people on this website. Apple is due in for exactly the same treatment, it's only a matter of time before the US eats their favorite crow.

fezfight 4y ago
If it wasnt clear in my reply, I agree with you. But as an aside, don't let this site get to you too much. There's a lot of arguing for sport that goes on here.
aaaaaaaaaaab 4y ago
Instead we live in a world where the web means Chrome. How wonderful!
- fezfight 4y ago
  They usurped the minds a generation with free email and YouTube.
KerrAvon 4y ago
Look, as someone who was rooting for MS to lose big time back then, I would have been happy for that to be true. But MS lost through hubris, not the antitrust settlement.
GekkePrutser 4y ago
> If the government hadn't stepped in to encourage Microsoft to play nice, we might live in a world where "the web" simply means Internet Explorer. I kinda doubt that. As soon as Microsoft had a virtual monopoly on the browser market, they let IE go stale for years. Hardly any feature development, hardly any bug squashing. Terrible security. By the time the browser choice thing in the EU and the antitrust thing in the US happened, the rot had already set in and everyone was fed up and yearning for a browser that didn't suck. Google drove their Chrome truck right into that gap. If IE had actually been a decent browser, no amount of "choose your browser" screens would have been enough to sway people from it. Just like they cling to Chrome now because Google is too smart to make that mistake. PS FWIW I don't like and hardly use chrome but technically as a browser it's great, I just don't like Google's attitude to privacy.
pjmlp 4y ago
Phyrric victory, modern Web simply means ChromeOS rebranded.

pjmlp 4y ago

WebAssembly....

jchw 4y ago
WebAssembly is an open standard and I don't really see how it's any bigger a problem than asm.js or obfuscated JS already was.
- fezfight 4y ago
  Agreed! Would be nice to reverse the tide on that stuff though. C'est la vie.