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> Of course the media tells us most Republicans are racist misogynists slavering for a new empire led by an anointed God King. And Republicans chose Donald Tru

> Of course the media tells us most Republicans are racist misogynists slavering for a new empire led by an anointed God King. And Republicans chose Donald Trump as their leader in order to disprove this perception?

h2odragon 4y ago
Can you suggest a more clownish, less serious, less menacing figurehead?
- klyrs 4y ago
  Peewee Herman?
- turzmo 4y ago
  Sure, Biden, but Trump is plenty menacing himself.
- squarefoot 4y ago
  Trump may be a harmless clown by himself, but the uneducated, violent, armed and trigger happy adepts subjected to his cult of personality are not.
  - h2odragon 4y ago
    I am every one of those categories, here to tell you that all I want is to live in peace with others and pursue my own happiness. I say things here like "we don't need to agree on everything in order to work together on the things we do agree on" and "people have a right to be wrong". That is the revolutionary spirit that animates many Trump supporters who are disgusted with Trump, which is so dangerous that it must be suppressed with extralegal means. A "big tent" philosophy.
thesuperbigfrog 4y ago
>> And Republicans chose Donald Trump as their leader in order to disprove this perception? Republicans are split on Trump: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/08/09/2-traits-of-the-parties-trump-and-the-gop/ https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/08/09/2-traits-of-... My guess is that if Trump runs for president in 2024 he will split the Republican vote and will not win.
- hotpotamus 4y ago
  How did the Republicans split in 2016 and 2020?
  - thesuperbigfrog 4y ago
    If I remember correctly the split was practically zero in 2016 (Trump vs. Hillary Clinton), and about 75% for Trump / 25% against Trump in 2020 (Trump vs. Biden). Trump's role in the January 6th insurrection, Trump's claims that the election was stolen, and his pressure on voting officials to "find the votes"[1] have caused about half of Republicans to turn against him and other Republicans that support him. [1] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump/in-recorded-call-trump-pressures-georgia-official-to-find-votes-to-overturn-election-idUSKBN2980MG https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump/in-rec... Edit: Republican support for Trump in 2020 was stronger than I remembered: "Ideological divisions within the parties were also apparent in the vote, with both Trump and Biden doing better among the ideological core of their parties. Trump received the votes of 97% of conservative Republicans and leaners but a smaller majority (79%) of Republicans who describe themselves as moderate or liberal. Biden took 98% of the vote among liberal Democrats and leaners and 91% among those who are moderate or conservative." Source: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/06/30/behind-bidens-2020-victory/ https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/06/30/behind-biden...
    - JoeAltmaier 4y ago
      The amazing thing for most of the rest of us (not Republicans) is that anybody thought that guy was anything but a charlatan all along. Really. He talked like a car saleman, said "I" every third word, and couldn't perform even the rudiments of the job. So that's where some of the view of Republicans comes from.
      - krapp 4y ago
        "But he talked like one of us!"
- 4y ago

h2odragon 4y ago

Can you suggest a more clownish, less serious, less menacing figurehead?

klyrs 4y ago
Peewee Herman?
turzmo 4y ago
Sure, Biden, but Trump is plenty menacing himself.
squarefoot 4y ago
Trump may be a harmless clown by himself, but the uneducated, violent, armed and trigger happy adepts subjected to his cult of personality are not.
- h2odragon 4y ago
  I am every one of those categories, here to tell you that all I want is to live in peace with others and pursue my own happiness. I say things here like "we don't need to agree on everything in order to work together on the things we do agree on" and "people have a right to be wrong". That is the revolutionary spirit that animates many Trump supporters who are disgusted with Trump, which is so dangerous that it must be suppressed with extralegal means. A "big tent" philosophy.

thesuperbigfrog 4y ago

>> And Republicans chose Donald Trump as their leader in order to disprove this perception? Republicans are split on Trump: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/08/09/2-traits-of-the-parties-trump-and-the-gop/ https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/08/09/2-traits-of-... My guess is that if Trump runs for president in 2024 he will split the Republican vote and will not win.

hotpotamus 4y ago
How did the Republicans split in 2016 and 2020?
- thesuperbigfrog 4y ago
  If I remember correctly the split was practically zero in 2016 (Trump vs. Hillary Clinton), and about 75% for Trump / 25% against Trump in 2020 (Trump vs. Biden). Trump's role in the January 6th insurrection, Trump's claims that the election was stolen, and his pressure on voting officials to "find the votes"[1] have caused about half of Republicans to turn against him and other Republicans that support him. [1] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump/in-recorded-call-trump-pressures-georgia-official-to-find-votes-to-overturn-election-idUSKBN2980MG https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump/in-rec... Edit: Republican support for Trump in 2020 was stronger than I remembered: "Ideological divisions within the parties were also apparent in the vote, with both Trump and Biden doing better among the ideological core of their parties. Trump received the votes of 97% of conservative Republicans and leaners but a smaller majority (79%) of Republicans who describe themselves as moderate or liberal. Biden took 98% of the vote among liberal Democrats and leaners and 91% among those who are moderate or conservative." Source: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/06/30/behind-bidens-2020-victory/ https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/06/30/behind-biden...
  - JoeAltmaier 4y ago
    The amazing thing for most of the rest of us (not Republicans) is that anybody thought that guy was anything but a charlatan all along. Really. He talked like a car saleman, said "I" every third word, and couldn't perform even the rudiments of the job. So that's where some of the view of Republicans comes from.
    - krapp 4y ago
      "But he talked like one of us!"
4y ago