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It always felt to me that this post nuclear war sounds like choosing to be tortured until you die vs just dying on the spot. We are talking about full on nucle

It always felt to me that this post nuclear war sounds like choosing to be tortured until you die vs just dying on the spot. We are talking about full on nuclear annihilation. Its not 40-50 years of suffering, it sounds like generations of suffering, early struggles not to starve to death (if you are not a remote farmer or remote isolated community with farmers - tough luck scavenging vs hordes of other survivors). Soon if you managed to be part of community that managed so far, you will be faced with other communities. Fighting over resources or farmland, resources are scares human lives are not. Eventually everything will fall under tyrannical local warlords, who will be constantly fighting too. Daily fighting for resources, no medications or people who can heal you. Stupid cuts can become lethal, huge number of birthing deaths as c-section is quite common (google says 31.8%) so on and on The lone survivor rebuilding nation is a romantic view, but I think realistically staying alive will be a grim premise that I'd rather skip. Would you still be ok going through above scenario?

pjmorris 4y ago
The scenario you paint could easily describe most of human history and even describes some places in the world today. That you are here to write this suggests that a long chain of people found something worth living for even in such environments.
- varelse 4y ago
- me_me_me 4y ago
  Well yes and no, I think in my scenario people would fall to strange quasi bronze age era with modern equipment but no means to produce anything but basic primitive tools (only some would have capabilities/knowledge to produce tech) So first gen survivors would remember the good times. There is a difference between 'you were born and live your whole live in a 13th century hovel' vs 'you were eating pizza a year ago watchin Netflix and now you live in 13th century hovel for the rest of your life'. I have never done heroin but I have a friend that did and stopped. Our experiences are vastly different, even though we are both not on heroin.
nickjj 4y ago
> Would you still be ok going through above scenario? Yep 100%, I would take uncertain life vs certain death in the above scenario. If you truly believe this is your one shot at life then giving that up isn't an option.

pjmorris 4y ago

The scenario you paint could easily describe most of human history and even describes some places in the world today. That you are here to write this suggests that a long chain of people found something worth living for even in such environments.

varelse 4y ago
me_me_me 4y ago
Well yes and no, I think in my scenario people would fall to strange quasi bronze age era with modern equipment but no means to produce anything but basic primitive tools (only some would have capabilities/knowledge to produce tech) So first gen survivors would remember the good times. There is a difference between 'you were born and live your whole live in a 13th century hovel' vs 'you were eating pizza a year ago watchin Netflix and now you live in 13th century hovel for the rest of your life'. I have never done heroin but I have a friend that did and stopped. Our experiences are vastly different, even though we are both not on heroin.

nickjj 4y ago

> Would you still be ok going through above scenario? Yep 100%, I would take uncertain life vs certain death in the above scenario. If you truly believe this is your one shot at life then giving that up isn't an option.