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There are different degrees, sure. And this place has moderation. But what is the line? Be precise and avoid arbitrary definitions. There are threads here wher

There are different degrees, sure. And this place has moderation. But what is the line? Be precise and avoid arbitrary definitions. There are threads here where people call for wealthy peoples heads. Did that cross a line? Could we say it about other people?

fullstop 4y ago
That is still not the primary purpose of HN. Those comments should be flagged, of course, but they in no way align with the specific purpose of HN. Kiwifarms was founded to troll and harass a specific webcomic author. From there it evolved to target and harass specific people or communities. Surely you see the difference here.
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klyrs 4y ago
> There are threads here where people call for wealthy peoples heads. Did that cross a line? Could we say it about other people? Are they targeting specific rich people in a dedicated and persistent fashion to the point that said rich persons kill themselves? No, that's not happening. I've seen posts of the type you've described. They're almost always dead/banned/shadowbanned. They're much less frequent than any one of anti-black, anti-gay, anti-jew, or anti-trans comments... which are almost always dead/banned/shadowbanned as well. This site does not remotely compare to KF.
pornel 4y ago
You're falling for the heap paradox: If you remove a grain of sand from a heap, tell precisely at which grain of sand it stops being a heap. You can't? Therefore it's impossible to tell if something is a heap of sand! QED
- throwaway290 4y ago
  That just says "don't use the word 'heap' for anything normative", surely not "let's hope what we think is a heap is universal consensus"? I support the current thing though
WastingMyTime89 4y ago
> Be precise and avoid arbitrary definitions. Why should we? Society has been doing pretty fine with some fuzziness until now. Sometimes something really goes to far and they end up not hosted anymore. That’s the system working, not it failing to work. Well, that came a bit slowly for kiwifarms sadly but I’m glade sanity prevailed in the end.

fullstop 4y ago

That is still not the primary purpose of HN. Those comments should be flagged, of course, but they in no way align with the specific purpose of HN. Kiwifarms was founded to troll and harass a specific webcomic author. From there it evolved to target and harass specific people or communities. Surely you see the difference here.

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klyrs 4y ago

> There are threads here where people call for wealthy peoples heads. Did that cross a line? Could we say it about other people? Are they targeting specific rich people in a dedicated and persistent fashion to the point that said rich persons kill themselves? No, that's not happening. I've seen posts of the type you've described. They're almost always dead/banned/shadowbanned. They're much less frequent than any one of anti-black, anti-gay, anti-jew, or anti-trans comments... which are almost always dead/banned/shadowbanned as well. This site does not remotely compare to KF.

pornel 4y ago

You're falling for the heap paradox: If you remove a grain of sand from a heap, tell precisely at which grain of sand it stops being a heap. You can't? Therefore it's impossible to tell if something is a heap of sand! QED

throwaway290 4y ago
That just says "don't use the word 'heap' for anything normative", surely not "let's hope what we think is a heap is universal consensus"? I support the current thing though

WastingMyTime89 4y ago

> Be precise and avoid arbitrary definitions. Why should we? Society has been doing pretty fine with some fuzziness until now. Sometimes something really goes to far and they end up not hosted anymore. That’s the system working, not it failing to work. Well, that came a bit slowly for kiwifarms sadly but I’m glade sanity prevailed in the end.