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If the user opted in to use the Find-My network, yes. Most of users want a way to find / lock / remotely wipe their 1000$ phone in case it gets lost or stolen.

MForster 4y ago
Ah, so Apple is linking the feature of finding _my_ phone with reporting on lots of others? That explains why people turn it on, but I find that creepy.
- garblegarble 4y ago
  The technology is also built so that the location is encrypted for the device owner - so Apple doesn't have a database of the location of every Apple Find My enabled device in the world, which for me makes it not creepy - my devices can find my devices. It's really useful for locating lost headphones, laptops, etc. -- whether stolen, left on public transport/taxi, or left at a friend's house. Edit: link to Apple's description of how Find My works: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/security/sec6cbc80fd0/web https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/security/sec6cbc80fd0/...
  - MForster 4y ago
    Thanks for pointing out the encryption. That changes things a bit, IMHO. Would have been nice if the article explained a bit what is actually happening. The wikipedia article doesn't mention it either...
    - garblegarble 4y ago
      I've edited my comment to add a link to Apple's description of the service's approach: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/security/sec6cbc80fd0/web https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/security/sec6cbc80fd0/...
  - ipaddr 4y ago
    So when another phone tells apple the id and location apple doesn't have a list of ids and locations?
    - garblegarble 4y ago
      >apple doesn't have a list of ids and locations? That's right - you can read more at [1] 1: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/security/sec6cbc80fd0/web https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/security/sec6cbc80fd0/...
  - Xx25 4y ago
    Is there any independent analysis of this end to end encryption of location data, that confirms that Apple can not really access the location even if they want to?

MForster 4y ago

Ah, so Apple is linking the feature of finding _my_ phone with reporting on lots of others? That explains why people turn it on, but I find that creepy.

garblegarble 4y ago
The technology is also built so that the location is encrypted for the device owner - so Apple doesn't have a database of the location of every Apple Find My enabled device in the world, which for me makes it not creepy - my devices can find my devices. It's really useful for locating lost headphones, laptops, etc. -- whether stolen, left on public transport/taxi, or left at a friend's house. Edit: link to Apple's description of how Find My works: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/security/sec6cbc80fd0/web https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/security/sec6cbc80fd0/...
- MForster 4y ago
  Thanks for pointing out the encryption. That changes things a bit, IMHO. Would have been nice if the article explained a bit what is actually happening. The wikipedia article doesn't mention it either...
  - garblegarble 4y ago
    I've edited my comment to add a link to Apple's description of the service's approach: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/security/sec6cbc80fd0/web https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/security/sec6cbc80fd0/...
- ipaddr 4y ago
  So when another phone tells apple the id and location apple doesn't have a list of ids and locations?
  - garblegarble 4y ago
    >apple doesn't have a list of ids and locations? That's right - you can read more at [1] 1: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/security/sec6cbc80fd0/web https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/security/sec6cbc80fd0/...
- Xx25 4y ago
  Is there any independent analysis of this end to end encryption of location data, that confirms that Apple can not really access the location even if they want to?