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Something I'm curious about in this whole thing: who is DDoSing kiwifarms? Most people find their content reprehensible but does that usually translate into peo

Something I'm curious about in this whole thing: who is DDoSing kiwifarms? Most people find their content reprehensible but does that usually translate into people DDoSing something?

jl6 4y ago
Just speculating, but I’m sure any internet thing involving drama at scale also involves DDoSes.
corobo 4y ago
Wouldn't surprise me. People used to DDoS to knock competitor IRC networks offline for laughs, never mind something people believe in. It helps it's the easiest way to do damage to a website and you just can pay someone to do the tech part of the hack. A DDoS attack is as easy to buy as the web hosting you're attacking now, back in the day you had to set up the botnet yourself
worldofmatthew 4y ago
DDOS attacks enabled by Cloudflare and DDOS-Guard protecting the attackers.
colpabar 4y ago
keffals.
prvit 4y ago
I don't think anyone is actually DDoSing kiwifarms at any significant scale. If they end up running the site on a server with no DDoS filtering at all, people will probably DoS them because it will be super easy.
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origin_path 4y ago
Yes. Why do you think KF's enemies went after Cloudflare and not some other aspect of their operation - it's because they want to destroy the site totally and that means DDoSing it off the internet.
Hamcha 4y ago
People pay for DDOS for the stupidest reasons, one of my favorite game servers have been under constant DDOS attack because they changed their discord icon in support of Ukraine.
- polygamous_bat 4y ago
  It may also be the case that it's not "people paying others to DDOS" and rather a state-level actor trying to influence their actions.
ohCh6zos 4y ago
Maybe start with the people protesting the loudest that they have DDoS mitigation?
boastful_inaba 4y ago
In previous years, the admin noticed a repeated monthly pattern of DDOS attacks, and believed that it was due to the cycle of people getting welfare/disability and spending as much as they could each month on rent-a-DDOS services.
- jdgoesmarching 4y ago
  I’ve read some hilariously out-of-touch comments on this site, but this might take the cake. You know what else happens on a monthly basis? Normal paychecks. Only some ivory tower conservative could believe people on welfare or disability are throwing money at tech nerd services to bring them down. What an incredible victim complex.
  - richbell 4y ago
    > I’ve read some hilariously out-of-touch comments on this site, but this might take the cake. You know what else happens on a monthly basis? Normal paychecks. IIRC the context of that quote was that Kiwi Farms has/had several people constantly filing frivolous lawsuits against it who were literally on welfare/government support.
    - danShumway 4y ago
      I thought the GP comment was wild, but "I just got my welfare check, time to hire a lawyer" is an even stranger take. Suing people is unpleasant and expensive and tends to favor people with money who can afford to hire effective lawyers, very few of whom will work for so little that they can be afforded on welfare. If people on welfare are suing someone, it's probably because they actually have a grievance with them and feel legally wronged, regardless of whether their lawsuits are frivolous or not. I don't think anyone on welfare is thinking, "the most enjoyable way for me to spend this money is to get involved in a legal process." If a lot of Kiwi Farms lawsuits come from people who are jobless and on disability, I think the more likely conclusion is that it might have something to do with who the site's common targets were.
      - 4y ago
xboxnolifes 4y ago
People DDoS everything. Every public video game server, random forums, home IPs of opponents in League of Legends matches, etc. It takes literally one disgruntled person to pay $5 to take down most IPs that don't have DDoS protection. Sometimes a free booter is enough.

Something I'm curious about in this whole thing: who is DDoSing kiwifarms? Most people find their content reprehensible but does that usually translate into people DDoSing something?

jl6 4y ago

Just speculating, but I’m sure any internet thing involving drama at scale also involves DDoSes.

corobo 4y ago

Wouldn't surprise me. People used to DDoS to knock competitor IRC networks offline for laughs, never mind something people believe in. It helps it's the easiest way to do damage to a website and you just can pay someone to do the tech part of the hack. A DDoS attack is as easy to buy as the web hosting you're attacking now, back in the day you had to set up the botnet yourself

worldofmatthew 4y ago

DDOS attacks enabled by Cloudflare and DDOS-Guard protecting the attackers.

colpabar 4y ago

keffals.

prvit 4y ago

I don't think anyone is actually DDoSing kiwifarms at any significant scale. If they end up running the site on a server with no DDoS filtering at all, people will probably DoS them because it will be super easy.

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origin_path 4y ago

Yes. Why do you think KF's enemies went after Cloudflare and not some other aspect of their operation - it's because they want to destroy the site totally and that means DDoSing it off the internet.

Hamcha 4y ago

People pay for DDOS for the stupidest reasons, one of my favorite game servers have been under constant DDOS attack because they changed their discord icon in support of Ukraine.

polygamous_bat 4y ago
It may also be the case that it's not "people paying others to DDOS" and rather a state-level actor trying to influence their actions.

ohCh6zos 4y ago

Maybe start with the people protesting the loudest that they have DDoS mitigation?

boastful_inaba 4y ago

In previous years, the admin noticed a repeated monthly pattern of DDOS attacks, and believed that it was due to the cycle of people getting welfare/disability and spending as much as they could each month on rent-a-DDOS services.

jdgoesmarching 4y ago
I’ve read some hilariously out-of-touch comments on this site, but this might take the cake. You know what else happens on a monthly basis? Normal paychecks. Only some ivory tower conservative could believe people on welfare or disability are throwing money at tech nerd services to bring them down. What an incredible victim complex.
- richbell 4y ago
  > I’ve read some hilariously out-of-touch comments on this site, but this might take the cake. You know what else happens on a monthly basis? Normal paychecks. IIRC the context of that quote was that Kiwi Farms has/had several people constantly filing frivolous lawsuits against it who were literally on welfare/government support.
  - danShumway 4y ago
    I thought the GP comment was wild, but "I just got my welfare check, time to hire a lawyer" is an even stranger take. Suing people is unpleasant and expensive and tends to favor people with money who can afford to hire effective lawyers, very few of whom will work for so little that they can be afforded on welfare. If people on welfare are suing someone, it's probably because they actually have a grievance with them and feel legally wronged, regardless of whether their lawsuits are frivolous or not. I don't think anyone on welfare is thinking, "the most enjoyable way for me to spend this money is to get involved in a legal process." If a lot of Kiwi Farms lawsuits come from people who are jobless and on disability, I think the more likely conclusion is that it might have something to do with who the site's common targets were.
    - 4y ago

xboxnolifes 4y ago

People DDoS everything. Every public video game server, random forums, home IPs of opponents in League of Legends matches, etc. It takes literally one disgruntled person to pay $5 to take down most IPs that don't have DDoS protection. Sometimes a free booter is enough.