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An ill thought out product from Apple. Because their tagline should be "Our business is pretending to care." Back to the story. By default iOS "Find My" tends

An ill thought out product from Apple. Because their tagline should be "Our business is pretending to care." Back to the story. By default iOS "Find My" tends to be on when setting up a new phone with an Apple id. If it is not on, or switched off, does the 'stalkee' still get that notification that they're being tracked?

samatman 4y ago
Are you asking if a phone which has specifically been told to ignore AirTags will see AirTags? Why are you asking this question? The answer borders on the tautological.
- Liquid_Fire 4y ago
  The functionality to help track AirTags by reporting them to Apple could presumably be distinct from the functionality that detects if there is a new tag following you (for one, the latter wouldn't require reporting any device locations to Apple), so I don't see how the question requires a tautological answer. Does the setting actually say "ignore AirTags", or does it say "help track other people's devices" or something else? Genuine question, as I don't have an iPhone.
  - elondaits 4y ago
    The functionality is a toggle labeled "Find My network" with the description "Participating in the Find My network lets you locate this iPhone even when it's offline." As I understand it, if you want to track your things you need to opt-in into the "Find My network", which also means you will relay information about nearby devices. It's not specific to Airtags... as the "Find My" network helps locate iPads, Macbooks and even Airpods. ... However, I presume the functionality that lets you know that there's an AirTag following you is separate, since it has nothing to do with the network, but rather with the iPhone detecting that there's an Airtag traveling along with it. I don't see a way to opt-out of that... but probably it stops working if you disable Bluetooth completely, from the Settings app.
- IndySun 4y ago
  >Are you asking if a phone which has specifically been told to ignore AirTags will see AirTags? Why are you asking this question? The answer borders on the tautological. The victims are almost universally people oblivious to what can be done technically, they never adjust preferences; everything is 'on', as per a typical iPhone setup. So the question remains... If a typical user turns off 'Find My' will they still get notification that they are being tracked? The implication is that unless 'Find My' is on, they will be still tracked but not be notified. See my point?

samatman 4y ago

Are you asking if a phone which has specifically been told to ignore AirTags will see AirTags? Why are you asking this question? The answer borders on the tautological.

Liquid_Fire 4y ago
The functionality to help track AirTags by reporting them to Apple could presumably be distinct from the functionality that detects if there is a new tag following you (for one, the latter wouldn't require reporting any device locations to Apple), so I don't see how the question requires a tautological answer. Does the setting actually say "ignore AirTags", or does it say "help track other people's devices" or something else? Genuine question, as I don't have an iPhone.
- elondaits 4y ago
  The functionality is a toggle labeled "Find My network" with the description "Participating in the Find My network lets you locate this iPhone even when it's offline." As I understand it, if you want to track your things you need to opt-in into the "Find My network", which also means you will relay information about nearby devices. It's not specific to Airtags... as the "Find My" network helps locate iPads, Macbooks and even Airpods. ... However, I presume the functionality that lets you know that there's an AirTag following you is separate, since it has nothing to do with the network, but rather with the iPhone detecting that there's an Airtag traveling along with it. I don't see a way to opt-out of that... but probably it stops working if you disable Bluetooth completely, from the Settings app.
IndySun 4y ago
>Are you asking if a phone which has specifically been told to ignore AirTags will see AirTags? Why are you asking this question? The answer borders on the tautological. The victims are almost universally people oblivious to what can be done technically, they never adjust preferences; everything is 'on', as per a typical iPhone setup. So the question remains... If a typical user turns off 'Find My' will they still get notification that they are being tracked? The implication is that unless 'Find My' is on, they will be still tracked but not be notified. See my point?