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Everybody seems to be different and we don't know why. There seem to be not much research into why there are such differences in people's reaction, how virus ac

Everybody seems to be different and we don't know why. There seem to be not much research into why there are such differences in people's reaction, how virus actually spreads, the treatment protocols (stay at home and rest, unless you get really sick then come to the hospital and we will begin to look at you). Availability of treatments seem to be poor, again unless you are very sick at the hospital. We are only allowed to talk about vaccines. It feels like Pfizer bought off the entiriety of Western governments.

bawolff 4y ago
People responding differently to the same disease happens in every disease. There's plenty of research into this, but we are still far from unraveling all the mysteries of the human body. Similarly the treatment protocol of - if you have a minor infection with no additional risk factors, rest and drink fluids, if the infection is major talk to a doctor, is how we handle pretty much all infections, and the obviously sensible thing to do.
- g42gregory 4y ago
  Yes, but every other disease does not shut down the world for 2+ years and does not cost $trillions to deal with. It's not like the flu: it's not seasonal so there is no break in the Summer, vaccines barely working, it's much more contagious, and it affects world's productivity in a very substantial way. We got lucky with Omicron's being very mild. What will happen with the next variant? Who is working on the real solution?
  - bawolff 4y ago
    To channel the mythical man-month - 9 woman can't make a baby in 1 month. For virus based diseases, generally vaccines have been the most effective thing. Other treatment options have generally been very difficult. Best success story for non vaccine treatment is probably AIDS, and that took decades. Its not for lack of trying.
mandmandam 4y ago
> It feels like Pfizer bought off the entirety of Western governments. They did though [0]. Out of 73 contracts with governments, only 5 were published, and those had "significant redactions". All vaccines were bought on condition of full legal indemnity. > There seem to be not much research into why there are such differences in people's reaction, how virus actually spreads, the treatment protocols Why research any of that when you can say that you just need this totally safe and effective [TM] vaccine, no you can't see the safety data, and if you question us then you're a murderous plague rat who hates old people!! So far they're getting away with this; if anything people's trust in pharma has gone up. Ugh. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/dec/05/wall-of-secrecy-in-pfizer-contracts-as-company-accused-of-profiteering?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/dec/05/wall-of-secr...

bawolff 4y ago

People responding differently to the same disease happens in every disease. There's plenty of research into this, but we are still far from unraveling all the mysteries of the human body. Similarly the treatment protocol of - if you have a minor infection with no additional risk factors, rest and drink fluids, if the infection is major talk to a doctor, is how we handle pretty much all infections, and the obviously sensible thing to do.

g42gregory 4y ago
Yes, but every other disease does not shut down the world for 2+ years and does not cost $trillions to deal with. It's not like the flu: it's not seasonal so there is no break in the Summer, vaccines barely working, it's much more contagious, and it affects world's productivity in a very substantial way. We got lucky with Omicron's being very mild. What will happen with the next variant? Who is working on the real solution?
- bawolff 4y ago
  To channel the mythical man-month - 9 woman can't make a baby in 1 month. For virus based diseases, generally vaccines have been the most effective thing. Other treatment options have generally been very difficult. Best success story for non vaccine treatment is probably AIDS, and that took decades. Its not for lack of trying.

mandmandam 4y ago

> It feels like Pfizer bought off the entirety of Western governments. They did though [0]. Out of 73 contracts with governments, only 5 were published, and those had "significant redactions". All vaccines were bought on condition of full legal indemnity. > There seem to be not much research into why there are such differences in people's reaction, how virus actually spreads, the treatment protocols Why research any of that when you can say that you just need this totally safe and effective [TM] vaccine, no you can't see the safety data, and if you question us then you're a murderous plague rat who hates old people!! So far they're getting away with this; if anything people's trust in pharma has gone up. Ugh. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/dec/05/wall-of-secrecy-in-pfizer-contracts-as-company-accused-of-profiteering?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/dec/05/wall-of-secr...