4 ms·

I find it odd that I’ve never had COVID symptoms, even though post vaccination I’ve more or less lived my life like it was 2019. I don’t wear a mask unless man

I find it odd that I’ve never had COVID symptoms, even though post vaccination I’ve more or less lived my life like it was 2019. I don’t wear a mask unless mandated. I go to my open plan office 5 days a week. I go to the gym or fitness classes 5 days a week. I dine indoors and visit bars twice a week. I fly twice a month. And while I was a bit more careful during the January Omicron wave, I still did all of the above but at a lower frequency. And I’ve tested myself after exposures (of which I’ve had countless). What’s even weirder is that I haven’t even had a fever or the sniffles since 2020, when I used to fall sick every other month pre pandemic. Maybe it’s because my office is much less crowded than it was in 2019? Or that there are just fewer colds in circulation?

michaelmrose 4y ago
Maybe your grouping of people has normalized staying home when you are sick? It used to be normal that coming to work making everyone sick was a sign of motivation and dedication whereas now its deemed by many myself included as a sign that your an inconsiderate jerk who doesn't mind killing Susan in HR's grandma.
remarkEon 4y ago
You're not alone. One of my good friends is a bartender in LA, refused to get vaccinated (for religious reasons that aren't germane to this discussion) and has yet to get covid. You would think that a guy that interacts with people every day at a bar would get it, but nope. He never has. Probably never will. Makes me think that the CDC should seek out people like this and study them to determine why. I got my proper vaccinations, and still got it a couple months ago. It was a pretty decent flu, but honestly no worse than my worst seasonal flu I had back in 2014. He travels internationally a lot, and I have to wonder if doing that primed his immune system in some way.
- CogitoCogito 4y ago
  He could have had an asymptotic infection. But yeah maybe he was just never infected. Of course everyone isn’t going to get it. Edit: What’s your reasoning for this claim? > Probably never will.
  - remarkEon 4y ago
    >Edit: What’s your reasoning for this claim? More or less the same as yours. If he had it, he was asymptomatic. If he gets it, he'll be asymptomatic because see above.
    - CogitoCogito 4y ago
      In the case where he has _not_ every been infected, I see no reason to assume any future infection would be asymptomatic. Besides you can always have it asymptomatic once and then worse later. My girlfriend had a light (well it was still comparable to a bad flu) case in the beginning of the pandemic and then a year later a much worse case that took more than 6 months to fully recover from.
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
g42gregory 4y ago
Everybody seems to be different and we don't know why. There seem to be not much research into why there are such differences in people's reaction, how virus actually spreads, the treatment protocols (stay at home and rest, unless you get really sick then come to the hospital and we will begin to look at you). Availability of treatments seem to be poor, again unless you are very sick at the hospital. We are only allowed to talk about vaccines. It feels like Pfizer bought off the entiriety of Western governments.
- bawolff 4y ago
  People responding differently to the same disease happens in every disease. There's plenty of research into this, but we are still far from unraveling all the mysteries of the human body. Similarly the treatment protocol of - if you have a minor infection with no additional risk factors, rest and drink fluids, if the infection is major talk to a doctor, is how we handle pretty much all infections, and the obviously sensible thing to do.
  - g42gregory 4y ago
    Yes, but every other disease does not shut down the world for 2+ years and does not cost $trillions to deal with. It's not like the flu: it's not seasonal so there is no break in the Summer, vaccines barely working, it's much more contagious, and it affects world's productivity in a very substantial way. We got lucky with Omicron's being very mild. What will happen with the next variant? Who is working on the real solution?
    - bawolff 4y ago
      To channel the mythical man-month - 9 woman can't make a baby in 1 month. For virus based diseases, generally vaccines have been the most effective thing. Other treatment options have generally been very difficult. Best success story for non vaccine treatment is probably AIDS, and that took decades. Its not for lack of trying.
- mandmandam 4y ago
  > It feels like Pfizer bought off the entirety of Western governments. They did though [0]. Out of 73 contracts with governments, only 5 were published, and those had "significant redactions". All vaccines were bought on condition of full legal indemnity. > There seem to be not much research into why there are such differences in people's reaction, how virus actually spreads, the treatment protocols Why research any of that when you can say that you just need this totally safe and effective [TM] vaccine, no you can't see the safety data, and if you question us then you're a murderous plague rat who hates old people!! So far they're getting away with this; if anything people's trust in pharma has gone up. Ugh. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/dec/05/wall-of-secrecy-in-pfizer-contracts-as-company-accused-of-profiteering?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/dec/05/wall-of-secr...
jmopp 4y ago
One thing that has come out of the pandemic is people became a lot more diligent about washing hands and keeping away if they are visibly sick lest it be covid - not to mention everywhere being less crowded in general. While it isn't enough to stop the spread, it has limited the circulation of the common coughing and sneezing diseases.
- arinlen 4y ago
  > While it isn't enough to stop the spread, it has limited the circulation of the common coughing and sneezing diseases. It should be noted that that's exactly the whole purpose of basic higiene and public health measures: lower contagion rates by putting in place low-effort measures that hinder contagion rates.

michaelmrose 4y ago

Maybe your grouping of people has normalized staying home when you are sick? It used to be normal that coming to work making everyone sick was a sign of motivation and dedication whereas now its deemed by many myself included as a sign that your an inconsiderate jerk who doesn't mind killing Susan in HR's grandma.

remarkEon 4y ago

You're not alone. One of my good friends is a bartender in LA, refused to get vaccinated (for religious reasons that aren't germane to this discussion) and has yet to get covid. You would think that a guy that interacts with people every day at a bar would get it, but nope. He never has. Probably never will. Makes me think that the CDC should seek out people like this and study them to determine why. I got my proper vaccinations, and still got it a couple months ago. It was a pretty decent flu, but honestly no worse than my worst seasonal flu I had back in 2014. He travels internationally a lot, and I have to wonder if doing that primed his immune system in some way.

CogitoCogito 4y ago
He could have had an asymptotic infection. But yeah maybe he was just never infected. Of course everyone isn’t going to get it. Edit: What’s your reasoning for this claim? > Probably never will.
- remarkEon 4y ago
  >Edit: What’s your reasoning for this claim? More or less the same as yours. If he had it, he was asymptomatic. If he gets it, he'll be asymptomatic because see above.
  - CogitoCogito 4y ago
    In the case where he has _not_ every been infected, I see no reason to assume any future infection would be asymptomatic. Besides you can always have it asymptomatic once and then worse later. My girlfriend had a light (well it was still comparable to a bad flu) case in the beginning of the pandemic and then a year later a much worse case that took more than 6 months to fully recover from.
deleted 4y ago
[deleted]

g42gregory 4y ago

Everybody seems to be different and we don't know why. There seem to be not much research into why there are such differences in people's reaction, how virus actually spreads, the treatment protocols (stay at home and rest, unless you get really sick then come to the hospital and we will begin to look at you). Availability of treatments seem to be poor, again unless you are very sick at the hospital. We are only allowed to talk about vaccines. It feels like Pfizer bought off the entiriety of Western governments.

bawolff 4y ago
People responding differently to the same disease happens in every disease. There's plenty of research into this, but we are still far from unraveling all the mysteries of the human body. Similarly the treatment protocol of - if you have a minor infection with no additional risk factors, rest and drink fluids, if the infection is major talk to a doctor, is how we handle pretty much all infections, and the obviously sensible thing to do.
- g42gregory 4y ago
  Yes, but every other disease does not shut down the world for 2+ years and does not cost $trillions to deal with. It's not like the flu: it's not seasonal so there is no break in the Summer, vaccines barely working, it's much more contagious, and it affects world's productivity in a very substantial way. We got lucky with Omicron's being very mild. What will happen with the next variant? Who is working on the real solution?
  - bawolff 4y ago
    To channel the mythical man-month - 9 woman can't make a baby in 1 month. For virus based diseases, generally vaccines have been the most effective thing. Other treatment options have generally been very difficult. Best success story for non vaccine treatment is probably AIDS, and that took decades. Its not for lack of trying.
mandmandam 4y ago
> It feels like Pfizer bought off the entirety of Western governments. They did though [0]. Out of 73 contracts with governments, only 5 were published, and those had "significant redactions". All vaccines were bought on condition of full legal indemnity. > There seem to be not much research into why there are such differences in people's reaction, how virus actually spreads, the treatment protocols Why research any of that when you can say that you just need this totally safe and effective [TM] vaccine, no you can't see the safety data, and if you question us then you're a murderous plague rat who hates old people!! So far they're getting away with this; if anything people's trust in pharma has gone up. Ugh. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/dec/05/wall-of-secrecy-in-pfizer-contracts-as-company-accused-of-profiteering?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/dec/05/wall-of-secr...

jmopp 4y ago

One thing that has come out of the pandemic is people became a lot more diligent about washing hands and keeping away if they are visibly sick lest it be covid - not to mention everywhere being less crowded in general. While it isn't enough to stop the spread, it has limited the circulation of the common coughing and sneezing diseases.

arinlen 4y ago
> While it isn't enough to stop the spread, it has limited the circulation of the common coughing and sneezing diseases. It should be noted that that's exactly the whole purpose of basic higiene and public health measures: lower contagion rates by putting in place low-effort measures that hinder contagion rates.