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Won't electric car have bad resell value given battery cost an arm to replace

by lifeplusplus 4y ago

zelos 4y ago
Battery longevity is rapidly approaching the life of the car. 5% drop in 100,000 miles.
natch 4y ago
Depends on the brand features (like actual/real versus promised/non-built out supercharger network for example).
neallindsay 4y ago
I think you're over-estimating how common it will be to need a battery replacement in an EV. Car batteries don't generally "go bad". They instead get "smaller" over time, but not drastically so. It remains to be seen if modern EV batteries will need to be replaced before all the rest of the car.
rcMgD2BwE72F 4y ago
No. Nowadays, EV don't need battery replacement. Degradation is negligible for the current fleet: Bullshit. https://www.geotab.com/fleet-management-solutions/ev-battery https://www.geotab.com/fleet-management-solutions/ev-battery... And these are for 10-year old EV. Battery packs made today won't have to be replace after 15 years, and they'll certainly be used as stationary storage past their time on wheels. More importantly, most EV will switch to LFP chemistry (already more than half Tesla's vehicles production), which degrades even less. -https://www.geotab.com/fleet-management-solutions/ev-battery-degradation-tool/ https://www.geotab.com/fleet-management-solutions/ev-battery... - https://electrek.co/2018/04/14/tesla-battery-degradation-data/ https://electrek.co/2018/04/14/tesla-battery-degradation-dat... - https://www.tesla.com/ns_videos/2021-tesla-impact-report.pdf https://www.tesla.com/ns_videos/2021-tesla-impact-report.pdf (p. 67) for Tesla S/X fleet wide results. And this is for nickel-based batteries. Most EVs will be LFP in the foreseeable future, and they degrade far less. We'll certainly use the battery as long as they car can drive, and then, it will be added to the grid for stationary applications. Then, it will be sold and recycled. More from the International Energy Agency latest report on EV/batteries: https://iea.blob.core.windows.net/assets/e0d2081d-487d-4818-8c59-69b638969f9e/GlobalElectricVehicleOutlook2022.pdf https://iea.blob.core.windows.net/assets/e0d2081d-487d-4818-...
- lifeplusplus 4y ago
  i'm used to buying a car for X use it for 7 years and then sell it back for 1..2k less. Let say i buy a used electric card with 80k miles on it, and use it for 7 years, and have put 150k miles, now wont I have trouble selling it?

Won't electric car have bad resell value given battery cost an arm to replace

zelos 4y ago

Battery longevity is rapidly approaching the life of the car. 5% drop in 100,000 miles.

natch 4y ago

Depends on the brand features (like actual/real versus promised/non-built out supercharger network for example).

neallindsay 4y ago

I think you're over-estimating how common it will be to need a battery replacement in an EV. Car batteries don't generally "go bad". They instead get "smaller" over time, but not drastically so. It remains to be seen if modern EV batteries will need to be replaced before all the rest of the car.

rcMgD2BwE72F 4y ago

No. Nowadays, EV don't need battery replacement. Degradation is negligible for the current fleet: Bullshit. https://www.geotab.com/fleet-management-solutions/ev-battery https://www.geotab.com/fleet-management-solutions/ev-battery... And these are for 10-year old EV. Battery packs made today won't have to be replace after 15 years, and they'll certainly be used as stationary storage past their time on wheels. More importantly, most EV will switch to LFP chemistry (already more than half Tesla's vehicles production), which degrades even less. -https://www.geotab.com/fleet-management-solutions/ev-battery-degradation-tool/ https://www.geotab.com/fleet-management-solutions/ev-battery... - https://electrek.co/2018/04/14/tesla-battery-degradation-data/ https://electrek.co/2018/04/14/tesla-battery-degradation-dat... - https://www.tesla.com/ns_videos/2021-tesla-impact-report.pdf https://www.tesla.com/ns_videos/2021-tesla-impact-report.pdf (p. 67) for Tesla S/X fleet wide results. And this is for nickel-based batteries. Most EVs will be LFP in the foreseeable future, and they degrade far less. We'll certainly use the battery as long as they car can drive, and then, it will be added to the grid for stationary applications. Then, it will be sold and recycled. More from the International Energy Agency latest report on EV/batteries: https://iea.blob.core.windows.net/assets/e0d2081d-487d-4818-8c59-69b638969f9e/GlobalElectricVehicleOutlook2022.pdf https://iea.blob.core.windows.net/assets/e0d2081d-487d-4818-...

lifeplusplus 4y ago
i'm used to buying a car for X use it for 7 years and then sell it back for 1..2k less. Let say i buy a used electric card with 80k miles on it, and use it for 7 years, and have put 150k miles, now wont I have trouble selling it?