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> Well… Many Rust enthusiasts I really hope this sort of strawmanning doesn’t become common here. In response to any reasonable discussion about Rust the respo

> Well… Many Rust enthusiasts I really hope this sort of strawmanning doesn’t become common here. In response to any reasonable discussion about Rust the response seems to be “you’re fine, but the other enthusiasts are so unreasonable”. Where are these enthusiasts? Why bring them up when you can just respond to the person you’re talking to? It’s super annoying because even on irrelevant threads such haters will call people’s attention to these imagined enthusiasts. Like this comment from 6 days ago calling people jihadis if they like a language - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32640154 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32640154. Note that the jihadis didn’t exist on the thread, only in the commenter’s mind.

nyanpasu64 4y ago
Looking at https://lwn.net/Articles/893346/ https://lwn.net/Articles/893346/, I'd definitely describe mjg59 as unreasonably bashing unsafe languages (like some Rust users), though he says at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31251199 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31251199 that he doesn't know Rust.
- nindalf 4y ago
  Yeah, the linked comment says it pretty clearly > I will say that I've never written a line of Rust in my life and certainly can't be described as representing the Rust community in any way. If this is the best example out there then it does feel like GP was arguing against a strawman. But even otherwise, please let’s acknowledge that in any large community there’s going to be a minority who are loud and rude. It doesn’t advance the conversation much to point it out. They don’t represent the whole community any more than the comment I linked to represents the whole HN community. All I can say is that whenever I’ve seen such rudeness it’s moderated out pretty quick, whether here or elsewhere.
foldr 4y ago
The irony here is that you're also responding to comments by other people in different threads!

nyanpasu64 4y ago

Looking at https://lwn.net/Articles/893346/ https://lwn.net/Articles/893346/, I'd definitely describe mjg59 as unreasonably bashing unsafe languages (like some Rust users), though he says at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31251199 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31251199 that he doesn't know Rust.

nindalf 4y ago
Yeah, the linked comment says it pretty clearly > I will say that I've never written a line of Rust in my life and certainly can't be described as representing the Rust community in any way. If this is the best example out there then it does feel like GP was arguing against a strawman. But even otherwise, please let’s acknowledge that in any large community there’s going to be a minority who are loud and rude. It doesn’t advance the conversation much to point it out. They don’t represent the whole community any more than the comment I linked to represents the whole HN community. All I can say is that whenever I’ve seen such rudeness it’s moderated out pretty quick, whether here or elsewhere.

foldr 4y ago

The irony here is that you're also responding to comments by other people in different threads!