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> There are some parts of this planet where it it very hard to envision mass EV adoption. A lot of EV's are already at 500km range. Within this decade we shoul

> There are some parts of this planet where it it very hard to envision mass EV adoption. A lot of EV's are already at 500km range. Within this decade we should see 1000km range. Add some charging infrastructure and we are gold. Just look at the chargers Tesla has built in California (and there is still a lot of potential to improve).

ReptileMan 4y ago
No EV has 500 km range when you drive it in real world conditions. If you drive it with normal highway speed - 140-160 km/h you can barely get 250.
- redox99 4y ago
  In real world conditions the highest range Model S can do 320 miles (515km) [1] Also 140-160 km/h aren't normal highway speed. They are in fact illegal in almost all countries. [1] https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a36302930/tesla-model-s-long-range-plus-highway-range-testing/ https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a36302930/tesla-model-s-lo...
  - ReptileMan 4y ago
    Who cares if they are legal if everyone drives at them. I was cruising in Turkey lately with 170 and was often overtaken with people at 200+. Speed limits are just glorified toll boots made to extract revenue from people with powerful cars.
    - Tade0 4y ago
      In markets with significant EV adoption there's usually either section control on highways or a competent traffic police force. Also manufacturers are moving away from providing 200km/h+ capable cars. Volvo is pioneering this citing safety concerns.
- kwhitefoot 4y ago
  Do you have a new EV? My 2015 Model S 70D has a nominal range of 330 km and as far as i can tell it does pretty close to that unless I am running at high speed (110 km/h or more) or doing a lot of hill climbing. So I'm pretty sure that a newer EV, especially a lighter one or one with a larger battery and lower power motor would have a longer range. 140 km/h and above is not a normal highway speed in any country except Germany and even there it is not really that common. I returned from the UK to Norway last week. It was about 26 hours of driving through France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, the amount of time I spent at more than 130 was just a couple of hours.
  - baq 4y ago
    my vacation this year was 1500 km one way, at least 80% of which was done at 130km/h or more (both ways). i was one of very many doing a trip of this length judging by license plates at the destination.
    - adrianN 4y ago
      And how many of those kilometers were in areas so remote that it's impossible to build a fast charger there?
      - baq 4y ago
        zero, why does it matter?
        adrianN 4y ago
        Because I thought that we're discussing road trips through remote areas: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32719547 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32719547
        baq 4y ago
        the post I replied to: > It was about 26 hours of driving through France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, the amount of time I spent at more than 130 was just a couple of hours.

ReptileMan 4y ago

No EV has 500 km range when you drive it in real world conditions. If you drive it with normal highway speed - 140-160 km/h you can barely get 250.

redox99 4y ago
In real world conditions the highest range Model S can do 320 miles (515km) [1] Also 140-160 km/h aren't normal highway speed. They are in fact illegal in almost all countries. [1] https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a36302930/tesla-model-s-long-range-plus-highway-range-testing/ https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a36302930/tesla-model-s-lo...
- ReptileMan 4y ago
  Who cares if they are legal if everyone drives at them. I was cruising in Turkey lately with 170 and was often overtaken with people at 200+. Speed limits are just glorified toll boots made to extract revenue from people with powerful cars.
  - Tade0 4y ago
    In markets with significant EV adoption there's usually either section control on highways or a competent traffic police force. Also manufacturers are moving away from providing 200km/h+ capable cars. Volvo is pioneering this citing safety concerns.
kwhitefoot 4y ago
Do you have a new EV? My 2015 Model S 70D has a nominal range of 330 km and as far as i can tell it does pretty close to that unless I am running at high speed (110 km/h or more) or doing a lot of hill climbing. So I'm pretty sure that a newer EV, especially a lighter one or one with a larger battery and lower power motor would have a longer range. 140 km/h and above is not a normal highway speed in any country except Germany and even there it is not really that common. I returned from the UK to Norway last week. It was about 26 hours of driving through France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, the amount of time I spent at more than 130 was just a couple of hours.
- baq 4y ago
  my vacation this year was 1500 km one way, at least 80% of which was done at 130km/h or more (both ways). i was one of very many doing a trip of this length judging by license plates at the destination.
  - adrianN 4y ago
    And how many of those kilometers were in areas so remote that it's impossible to build a fast charger there?
    - baq 4y ago
      zero, why does it matter?
      - adrianN 4y ago
        Because I thought that we're discussing road trips through remote areas: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32719547 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32719547
        baq 4y ago
        the post I replied to: > It was about 26 hours of driving through France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, the amount of time I spent at more than 130 was just a couple of hours.