6 ms·

> Example: WeChat (Which is state owned)is within the same database as the TikTok DB (which claims not to give such information to their government). that see

> Example: WeChat (Which is state owned)is within the same database as the TikTok DB (which claims not to give such information to their government). that seems very material, for the US population and Bytedance's verbal commitment to the govt. At this point, it's obvious that data of US citizens (a large chunk underage) has been heavily shared with what is perceived as a rival state

kweingar 4y ago
As others have pointed out, this seems to be from a 3rd party service that integrates WeChat with TikTok.
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- duskwuff 4y ago
  It might not necessarily even be a direct integration. WeChat is often used as a primary means of communication within China -- it's comparable to the status of email in the US.
deleted 4y ago
[deleted]
SZJX 4y ago
Literally “within the same database” is highly improbable as they are direct competitors just like Google and Microsoft are. On the other hand, countless companies will surely try to match user profiles across the apps, which sounds like a common practice everywhere.
- Diesel555 4y ago
  This is one of the major problems with understanding how China operates. We view China through a Western lens, and just assume we are right - which has very bad policy outcomes. If you read a lot about how the CCP operates (I specify the CCP to differentiate the CCP running the PRC since 1949 from the ROC who fled to Taiwan), it is highly probable that those companies share the same database and have common state ties. If you want data on this assertion research "capitalism with socialist characteristics." If you want the data straight from China read their 14th 5-year plan (I wish the US had these kinds of plans) translated by Georgetown University here [1]. China is very open about what they are doing in published writing. If you want more information read "The World According to China" by Liz Economy. I can suggest about 10 other books too, but that book was published in 2022 and is the most relevant book I read. Unfortunately China's government from a Western lens is such a complex topic I can't simply link to one article about how China runs its economy and "private" organizations to prove my point. This complexity unfortunately leads to people making false assumptions about how China operates without the requisite knowledge - and then deciding how we should make policy decisions towards China. [1] https://cset.georgetown.edu/publication/china-14th-five-year-plan/ https://cset.georgetown.edu/publication/china-14th-five-year...
  - wishee 4y ago

kweingar 4y ago

As others have pointed out, this seems to be from a 3rd party service that integrates WeChat with TikTok.

deleted 4y ago
[deleted]
duskwuff 4y ago
It might not necessarily even be a direct integration. WeChat is often used as a primary means of communication within China -- it's comparable to the status of email in the US.

deleted 4y ago

[deleted]

SZJX 4y ago

Literally “within the same database” is highly improbable as they are direct competitors just like Google and Microsoft are. On the other hand, countless companies will surely try to match user profiles across the apps, which sounds like a common practice everywhere.

Diesel555 4y ago
This is one of the major problems with understanding how China operates. We view China through a Western lens, and just assume we are right - which has very bad policy outcomes. If you read a lot about how the CCP operates (I specify the CCP to differentiate the CCP running the PRC since 1949 from the ROC who fled to Taiwan), it is highly probable that those companies share the same database and have common state ties. If you want data on this assertion research "capitalism with socialist characteristics." If you want the data straight from China read their 14th 5-year plan (I wish the US had these kinds of plans) translated by Georgetown University here [1]. China is very open about what they are doing in published writing. If you want more information read "The World According to China" by Liz Economy. I can suggest about 10 other books too, but that book was published in 2022 and is the most relevant book I read. Unfortunately China's government from a Western lens is such a complex topic I can't simply link to one article about how China runs its economy and "private" organizations to prove my point. This complexity unfortunately leads to people making false assumptions about how China operates without the requisite knowledge - and then deciding how we should make policy decisions towards China. [1] https://cset.georgetown.edu/publication/china-14th-five-year-plan/ https://cset.georgetown.edu/publication/china-14th-five-year...
- wishee 4y ago