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It’s funny that we went through that but now have 4 different EV plugs that are standard and widely deployed: - Tesla (AFAIK cannot be adapted to charge a SAE J

It’s funny that we went through that but now have 4 different EV plugs that are standard and widely deployed: - Tesla (AFAIK cannot be adapted to charge a SAE J1772 car) - SAE J1772 (what my car, a PHEV has) - CCS (I think this adaptable to J1772 but the chargers I’ve seen around the Bay Area are DC-only so these are useless even if mechanically adapted for my J1772 car) - CHAdeMO - DC Only If we keep going like this, with proprietary charging networks, incompatible plugs, and holiday weekends in California where the official guidance is to not charge your EV, it’s very difficult for me to be optimistic about the future of EVs. We probably need a trillion dollars worth of infra to fix the grid, chargers, and roads to really make this good, but I do not see that happening in my lifetime (mid 30s).

saurik 4y ago
FWIW with the Tesla charging stations, they've talked before about opening it up to other cars, and I can see that happening eventually. The problem right now is that, the existence of those proprietary charging locations is part of their competitive advantage. It sucks, and it would probably be better to live in a world where there were separate charging companies and car companies, but the investment in bothering to build out the charge network is coming from Tesla specifically because they want to get people to buy a fleet of cars, and that chicken-and-egg issue isn't sure to work out correctly if their investment were able to be quickly piggy-backed by other car manufacturers who waited until Tesla built out the high-capacity charging locations to bother putting out a car. When the Tesla charging network isn't so much of a competitive advantage, it will likely open up (per my earlier comment that they've actually mentioned this recently). None of this, of course, applies to laptop companies with their bullshit barrel chargers.

saurik 4y ago

FWIW with the Tesla charging stations, they've talked before about opening it up to other cars, and I can see that happening eventually. The problem right now is that, the existence of those proprietary charging locations is part of their competitive advantage. It sucks, and it would probably be better to live in a world where there were separate charging companies and car companies, but the investment in bothering to build out the charge network is coming from Tesla specifically because they want to get people to buy a fleet of cars, and that chicken-and-egg issue isn't sure to work out correctly if their investment were able to be quickly piggy-backed by other car manufacturers who waited until Tesla built out the high-capacity charging locations to bother putting out a car. When the Tesla charging network isn't so much of a competitive advantage, it will likely open up (per my earlier comment that they've actually mentioned this recently). None of this, of course, applies to laptop companies with their bullshit barrel chargers.