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"Many of us don’t need detailed analysis to understand this. We can see it on our neighborhood streets" I live in an apartment complex. Zero EVs. I suppose y

by throw7 4y ago

"Many of us don’t need detailed analysis to understand this. We can see it on our neighborhood streets" I live in an apartment complex. Zero EVs. I suppose you are correct; I never considered myself as part of the "Many of us" moniker.

googlryas 4y ago
70% of Americans live in houses. Not apartments or condos.
smeagull 4y ago
I've found them difficult to spot, until I knew what I was looking for. And I'm in a city with an aging population, and many tradies who drive only Utes. The EVs are still here in larger numbers than I expected.
- firecall 4y ago
  Adelaide by any chance? LOL
rocket_surgeron 4y ago
In countries and US states taking the fate of humanity seriously they are either preparing to fund or have already funded public/semi-public EV charging infrastructure upgrades. However, with a little planning it is possible to own an EV even if you live in an apartment where there is no charging infrastructure. The average American drives 39 (let's call it 40) miles per day. The Hyundai Ioniq 5 has a 303 (let's call it 300) mile range. That's 7.5 days of driving on a full battery, but most people will get freaked out about having a low battery (despite driving around with their gas light on) so you just have to spend 15-45 minutes every 4 days at a DC fast charger and you'll never have a battery below 50%. Going out? Go out somewhere with a DC fast charger. There are tens of thousands of them and that number has been increasing by about 25% per year for the last two years. So EVs in an apartment is a pain in the ass but manageable. In a couple of years apartments are going encountering friction while attracting renters, destinations will have friction attracting visitors, and offices will have friction attracting employees unless there are accessible charging options so I suspect the public EV charging situation will improve rapidly.
- 01100011 4y ago
  > In countries and US states taking the fate of humanity seriously You mean places that discourage cars of all types and encourage mass transit, walking and biking?
rgmerk 4y ago
If you’re living in an outer burb, maybe. In wealthier neighbourhoods and closer to city centres Teslas and to a lesser extent other EVs are everywhere.
natch 4y ago
The idea that EVs can't charge in an apartment complex is a false assumption. It depends. I know we overlooked some options for a while before discovering we were mistaken and actually could charge. Many others could be making the same mistaken assumptions.

by throw7 4y ago

googlryas 4y ago

70% of Americans live in houses. Not apartments or condos.

smeagull 4y ago

I've found them difficult to spot, until I knew what I was looking for. And I'm in a city with an aging population, and many tradies who drive only Utes. The EVs are still here in larger numbers than I expected.

firecall 4y ago
Adelaide by any chance? LOL

rocket_surgeron 4y ago

In countries and US states taking the fate of humanity seriously they are either preparing to fund or have already funded public/semi-public EV charging infrastructure upgrades. However, with a little planning it is possible to own an EV even if you live in an apartment where there is no charging infrastructure. The average American drives 39 (let's call it 40) miles per day. The Hyundai Ioniq 5 has a 303 (let's call it 300) mile range. That's 7.5 days of driving on a full battery, but most people will get freaked out about having a low battery (despite driving around with their gas light on) so you just have to spend 15-45 minutes every 4 days at a DC fast charger and you'll never have a battery below 50%. Going out? Go out somewhere with a DC fast charger. There are tens of thousands of them and that number has been increasing by about 25% per year for the last two years. So EVs in an apartment is a pain in the ass but manageable. In a couple of years apartments are going encountering friction while attracting renters, destinations will have friction attracting visitors, and offices will have friction attracting employees unless there are accessible charging options so I suspect the public EV charging situation will improve rapidly.

01100011 4y ago
> In countries and US states taking the fate of humanity seriously You mean places that discourage cars of all types and encourage mass transit, walking and biking?

rgmerk 4y ago

If you’re living in an outer burb, maybe. In wealthier neighbourhoods and closer to city centres Teslas and to a lesser extent other EVs are everywhere.

natch 4y ago

The idea that EVs can't charge in an apartment complex is a false assumption. It depends. I know we overlooked some options for a while before discovering we were mistaken and actually could charge. Many others could be making the same mistaken assumptions.