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It's 100% correct that's simply a negotiation, and this is another variable. But if you came at me and told me I had to pay you what I pay my US employees, my
by rootusrootus 4y ago
It's 100% correct that's simply a negotiation, and this is another variable. But if you came at me and told me I had to pay you what I pay my US employees, my first response would be "alright, but you have to work US hours and speak perfect American English." Honestly, that's a good part of why we try to hire in one general area, in this case the US. There is a real cost to foreign developers who only speak passable English and who work on a schedule that has little or no overlap with US time zones.
- jbay808 4y agoSounds like you should hire Canadians!
- AlbertCory 4y agoMany people don't consider Canadian English "passable" :)
- jbay808 4y agoWe're quite willing to misspell "colour" for US rates!
- AlbertCory 4y agoif you can stop pronouncing "south" as "soath" we might be OK with it.
- AlchemistCamp 4y agoThe true crime is pronouncing "Java" to rhyme with "have a". Hearing someone say, "JaaavaScript" is a traumatic experience :)
- therealdrag0 4y agoDefinitely surprising it’s taken so long for this to take off. But maybe because CA has a tiny population probably too small a pool?
- rootusrootus 4y agoWe do have a Canadian office, in fact, though admittedly I don't think our company makes any effort to hire from there. At least nobody in my division of the company resides in Canada. Yet. One of my immediate coworkers is holds dual US/Canadian citizenship by birth and he is in the process of transferring his employment to the Canadian office because he is uncomfortable with increasingly acrimonious tribal politics of the US.
- jbay808 4y agoHow much is the pay differential between the US and Canada offices?
- soneca 4y agoThere is a lot between "passable" and "perfect" American english. I have far from "perfect" English, but in all my jobs as software developer for american companies (3 so far), I got great feedback for my communication skills. Mostly, being remote, is written communication, but still. I am close enough to US timezone (Brazil). So, I guess you would be paying me what you pay US employees as well :)
- rootusrootus 4y ago> There is a lot between "passable" and "perfect" American english. Agreed. > I am close enough to US timezone (Brazil). > So, I guess you would be paying me what you pay US employees as well :) Works for me. I have no particular prejudice against any culture, my concerns are entirely practical. If you can participate in meetings during hours the rest of the team will be awake, and your English is good enough that everyone can understand 100% of what you say, you have equal value to someone sitting in the US.
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago> you have equal value to someone sitting in the US In a remote-only culture.