> I completely agree with you that Wikimedia is way overzealous in asking for donations and it's sickening how they make people think Wikimedia desperately need

> I completely agree with you that Wikimedia is way overzealous in asking for donations and it's sickening how they make people think Wikimedia desperately needs the money to continue operating Wikipedia when they just don't. Before going further, I want to say that you and I agree. I just want to add a bit more context to some of the details in your response. > Wikimedia HQ is in San Francisco. There are many 25 year old code monkeys here making more than the Wikimedia executive team. This is true, but most Wikimedia employees don't live in SF. This page[1] says that half of the people working on teams based in the SF office were actually working remotely, and this sentence was added to the page in 2018. > I don't think Wikimedia should have to pay employees far below market rates just because it's a non-profit. Unfortunately this is already true. It looks like the average salary for a senior software developer at WMF is 132k[2]. When you consider that up to half of the employees live in SF, that is far below market rate. 1. https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_offices&diff=prev&oldid=17858253 2. https://www.levels.fyi/companies/wikimedia-foundation/salaries/software-engineer