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> The person she doxxed was a doxxer themselves. This analogy is interesting because it also applies to Keffals.

softcactus 4y ago
Context and intent matter. Pretending like all cases are equal only enables bullies. Doxxing an innocent person minding their own business because you don't like their race, gender orientation, or sexuality, is entirely different from doxxing someone in retaliation for their bad actions. Do you really think that doxxing and harassing schoolteachers is the same as doxxing someone who goads others into suicide?
- irthomasthomas 4y ago
  > minding their own business
- yanderekko 4y ago
  >Doxxing an innocent person minding their own business because you don't like their race, gender orientation, or sexuality, is entirely different from doxxing someone in retaliation for their bad actions. So we've just gone mask off to "doxxing is good when we do it."
  - softcactus 4y ago
    It's ok to arrest someone in the act of attacking another person. It's not ok to arrest someone standing on the side of the street looking at their phone. If you can understand the distinction above, you should be able to understand the difference with Taylor Lorenz vs Libs of Tiktok. Unless you're operating in bad faith or just trying to be a contrarian in which case, more power to you.
    - yanderekko 4y ago
      >It's ok to arrest someone in the act of attacking another person. Yes, if we're talking about actual physical assault and not mere criticism. Are you actually arguing that Lorenz prevented imminent acts of physical violence through her doxxing? Because this doesn't pass the laugh test unless you're relying on the usual vague "stocastic terrorism" arguments that are used to justify censoring pretty much any culturally conservative speech.
      - ec109685 4y ago
        She was a celebrity on talk shows who runs an extremely popular Twitter account that makes extremely disingenuous posts to bring furry on the people she didn’t agree with. Releasing who she is was fine. If a Ku Klux clan member had a very popular anonymous YouTube channel making fun of black people and bragging about it on Tucker Carlson, is it journalism to investigate and share where they work and who they are?
        yanderekko 4y ago
        Maybe, but I wouldn't modulate whether or not it's journalism based on the partisan affiliation of the doxxing target.
        softcactus 4y ago
        It's not based on partisan affiliation, I never said anything of the sort. I said bad actions/bad actors. The fact that you assumed I was talking about targeting conservatives just goes to show that they happen to be the ones rocking the boat with violent rhetoric, which occasionally gets backed up by actions.
        yanderekko 4y ago
        >It's not based on partisan affiliation, I never said anything of the sort. I said bad actions/bad actors. This is just shifting the partisan question-begging to the notion of "bad actions/bad actors." Why not just embrace the "doxxing is good when we do it" point that I originally made?

Context and intent matter. Pretending like all cases are equal only enables bullies. Doxxing an innocent person minding their own business because you don't like their race, gender orientation, or sexuality, is entirely different from doxxing someone in retaliation for their bad actions. Do you really think that doxxing and harassing schoolteachers is the same as doxxing someone who goads others into suicide?

irthomasthomas 4y ago
> minding their own business
yanderekko 4y ago
>Doxxing an innocent person minding their own business because you don't like their race, gender orientation, or sexuality, is entirely different from doxxing someone in retaliation for their bad actions. So we've just gone mask off to "doxxing is good when we do it."
- softcactus 4y ago
  It's ok to arrest someone in the act of attacking another person. It's not ok to arrest someone standing on the side of the street looking at their phone. If you can understand the distinction above, you should be able to understand the difference with Taylor Lorenz vs Libs of Tiktok. Unless you're operating in bad faith or just trying to be a contrarian in which case, more power to you.
  - yanderekko 4y ago
    >It's ok to arrest someone in the act of attacking another person. Yes, if we're talking about actual physical assault and not mere criticism. Are you actually arguing that Lorenz prevented imminent acts of physical violence through her doxxing? Because this doesn't pass the laugh test unless you're relying on the usual vague "stocastic terrorism" arguments that are used to justify censoring pretty much any culturally conservative speech.
    - ec109685 4y ago
      She was a celebrity on talk shows who runs an extremely popular Twitter account that makes extremely disingenuous posts to bring furry on the people she didn’t agree with. Releasing who she is was fine. If a Ku Klux clan member had a very popular anonymous YouTube channel making fun of black people and bragging about it on Tucker Carlson, is it journalism to investigate and share where they work and who they are?
      - yanderekko 4y ago
        Maybe, but I wouldn't modulate whether or not it's journalism based on the partisan affiliation of the doxxing target.
        softcactus 4y ago
        It's not based on partisan affiliation, I never said anything of the sort. I said bad actions/bad actors. The fact that you assumed I was talking about targeting conservatives just goes to show that they happen to be the ones rocking the boat with violent rhetoric, which occasionally gets backed up by actions.
        yanderekko 4y ago
        >It's not based on partisan affiliation, I never said anything of the sort. I said bad actions/bad actors. This is just shifting the partisan question-begging to the notion of "bad actions/bad actors." Why not just embrace the "doxxing is good when we do it" point that I originally made?