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Geohot has some bias to believe AGI would have to exist in meatspace, he has invested years into cracking self driving cars and dealing with the messy real worl

Geohot has some bias to believe AGI would have to exist in meatspace, he has invested years into cracking self driving cars and dealing with the messy real world. He does plug open pilot at the end.

krick 4y ago
I'm not gonna take anyone's side here, just to point out that "bias" goes both ways. Carmack is a life-long game-developer (always more focused on "technical" aspects of gamedev, like graphics), and now basically a rich celebrity, who can indulge himself by something as grand and abstract as "working on AGI" (since 2019). While Hotz is probably best known for his exploits, he still is a legit machine learning professional, and comma.ai is legit business actually focused on "AI-kinda -stuff". Now, AGI is that thing from the joke about "teenage sex". Everyone has some opinion, but we don't really take it too seriously when LeCun, or Karpathy, or Hinton express their opinions on that, because everyone (except for Musk fans, obviously) knows, that no one knows. And as I've said, I'm not gonna take anyone's side here, but unlike Hotz, Carmack has almost as much clue about that stuff as some random FE-developer out there. So you can as well replace "bias" with "experience" here, and it would be as true, but the whole meaning would be quite different.
- cma 4y ago
  > Carmack is a life-long game-developer (always more focused on "technical" aspects of gamedev, like graphics), and now basically a rich celebrity, who can indulge himself by something as grand and abstract as "working on AGI" (since 2019). He also started a rocket company and was a big part of making VR workable with reprojection techniques and other innovations (some of them may have had precedent but so did Doom, he and others got it all working in useable form this time, like Doom (Ultima Underworld was a bit slow and had to be run in a much smaller fraction of the screen)). Beyond just pure rendering, he also created the first usable megatexturing/virtual texturing, now used about everywhere, which is almost more of a data management problem. It maybe wasn't that great until SSDs, but he knew that and put out an early mindblowing iphone version using the solid state storage and integrated cpu/gpu memory as well.

Geohot has some bias to believe AGI would have to exist in meatspace, he has invested years into cracking self driving cars and dealing with the messy real world. He does plug open pilot at the end.

krick 4y ago

I'm not gonna take anyone's side here, just to point out that "bias" goes both ways. Carmack is a life-long game-developer (always more focused on "technical" aspects of gamedev, like graphics), and now basically a rich celebrity, who can indulge himself by something as grand and abstract as "working on AGI" (since 2019). While Hotz is probably best known for his exploits, he still is a legit machine learning professional, and comma.ai is legit business actually focused on "AI-kinda -stuff". Now, AGI is that thing from the joke about "teenage sex". Everyone has some opinion, but we don't really take it too seriously when LeCun, or Karpathy, or Hinton express their opinions on that, because everyone (except for Musk fans, obviously) knows, that no one knows. And as I've said, I'm not gonna take anyone's side here, but unlike Hotz, Carmack has almost as much clue about that stuff as some random FE-developer out there. So you can as well replace "bias" with "experience" here, and it would be as true, but the whole meaning would be quite different.

cma 4y ago
> Carmack is a life-long game-developer (always more focused on "technical" aspects of gamedev, like graphics), and now basically a rich celebrity, who can indulge himself by something as grand and abstract as "working on AGI" (since 2019). He also started a rocket company and was a big part of making VR workable with reprojection techniques and other innovations (some of them may have had precedent but so did Doom, he and others got it all working in useable form this time, like Doom (Ultima Underworld was a bit slow and had to be run in a much smaller fraction of the screen)). Beyond just pure rendering, he also created the first usable megatexturing/virtual texturing, now used about everywhere, which is almost more of a data management problem. It maybe wasn't that great until SSDs, but he knew that and put out an early mindblowing iphone version using the solid state storage and integrated cpu/gpu memory as well.