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A reporter respects a subject's desire to be anonymous. The fact that she runs an influential and news making Twitter account means her doxing is worse. Taylor

A reporter respects a subject's desire to be anonymous. The fact that she runs an influential and news making Twitter account means her doxing is worse. Taylor Lorenz has 337k Twitter followers, an algorithm that can broadcast her message beyond the eyes of those followers, and further reach through her column in The Washington Post. Publishing someone's identity to that many people will result in them getting harassed. Lorenz has no moral high ground to stand on, she is no better than any other doxer.

softcactus 4y ago
The person she doxxed was a doxxer themselves. They gave up their privilege of anonymity when they started directing harassment to other people as a hobby. Can't take the heat? Get out of the kitchen.
- dataengineer56 4y ago
  > The person she doxxed was a doxxer themselves. This analogy is interesting because it also applies to Keffals.
  - softcactus 4y ago
    Context and intent matter. Pretending like all cases are equal only enables bullies. Doxxing an innocent person minding their own business because you don't like their race, gender orientation, or sexuality, is entirely different from doxxing someone in retaliation for their bad actions. Do you really think that doxxing and harassing schoolteachers is the same as doxxing someone who goads others into suicide?
    - irthomasthomas 4y ago
      > minding their own business
    - yanderekko 4y ago
      >Doxxing an innocent person minding their own business because you don't like their race, gender orientation, or sexuality, is entirely different from doxxing someone in retaliation for their bad actions. So we've just gone mask off to "doxxing is good when we do it."
      - softcactus 4y ago
        It's ok to arrest someone in the act of attacking another person. It's not ok to arrest someone standing on the side of the street looking at their phone. If you can understand the distinction above, you should be able to understand the difference with Taylor Lorenz vs Libs of Tiktok. Unless you're operating in bad faith or just trying to be a contrarian in which case, more power to you.
        yanderekko 4y ago
        >It's ok to arrest someone in the act of attacking another person. Yes, if we're talking about actual physical assault and not mere criticism. Are you actually arguing that Lorenz prevented imminent acts of physical violence through her doxxing? Because this doesn't pass the laugh test unless you're relying on the usual vague "stocastic terrorism" arguments that are used to justify censoring pretty much any culturally conservative speech.
        ec109685 4y ago
        She was a celebrity on talk shows who runs an extremely popular Twitter account that makes extremely disingenuous posts to bring furry on the people she didn’t agree with. Releasing who she is was fine. If a Ku Klux clan member had a very popular anonymous YouTube channel making fun of black people and bragging about it on Tucker Carlson, is it journalism to investigate and share where they work and who they are?
        yanderekko 4y ago
        Maybe, but I wouldn't modulate whether or not it's journalism based on the partisan affiliation of the doxxing target.

softcactus 4y ago

The person she doxxed was a doxxer themselves. They gave up their privilege of anonymity when they started directing harassment to other people as a hobby. Can't take the heat? Get out of the kitchen.

dataengineer56 4y ago
> The person she doxxed was a doxxer themselves. This analogy is interesting because it also applies to Keffals.
- softcactus 4y ago
  Context and intent matter. Pretending like all cases are equal only enables bullies. Doxxing an innocent person minding their own business because you don't like their race, gender orientation, or sexuality, is entirely different from doxxing someone in retaliation for their bad actions. Do you really think that doxxing and harassing schoolteachers is the same as doxxing someone who goads others into suicide?
  - irthomasthomas 4y ago
    > minding their own business
  - yanderekko 4y ago
    >Doxxing an innocent person minding their own business because you don't like their race, gender orientation, or sexuality, is entirely different from doxxing someone in retaliation for their bad actions. So we've just gone mask off to "doxxing is good when we do it."
    - softcactus 4y ago
      It's ok to arrest someone in the act of attacking another person. It's not ok to arrest someone standing on the side of the street looking at their phone. If you can understand the distinction above, you should be able to understand the difference with Taylor Lorenz vs Libs of Tiktok. Unless you're operating in bad faith or just trying to be a contrarian in which case, more power to you.
      - yanderekko 4y ago
        >It's ok to arrest someone in the act of attacking another person. Yes, if we're talking about actual physical assault and not mere criticism. Are you actually arguing that Lorenz prevented imminent acts of physical violence through her doxxing? Because this doesn't pass the laugh test unless you're relying on the usual vague "stocastic terrorism" arguments that are used to justify censoring pretty much any culturally conservative speech.
        ec109685 4y ago
        She was a celebrity on talk shows who runs an extremely popular Twitter account that makes extremely disingenuous posts to bring furry on the people she didn’t agree with. Releasing who she is was fine. If a Ku Klux clan member had a very popular anonymous YouTube channel making fun of black people and bragging about it on Tucker Carlson, is it journalism to investigate and share where they work and who they are?
        yanderekko 4y ago
        Maybe, but I wouldn't modulate whether or not it's journalism based on the partisan affiliation of the doxxing target.