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Sadly emblematic for the US; tens of billions spent with no visible outcome No different than our approach to infrastructure, education, Healthcare, broadband.

by newaccount2021 4y ago

Sadly emblematic for the US; tens of billions spent with no visible outcome No different than our approach to infrastructure, education, Healthcare, broadband....plenty of money, no results

admax88qqq 4y ago
We could have an interesting discussion about the challenges of literal rocket science. Or we can turn this into yet another bitchfest about government inefficiency.
- zionic 4y ago
  Is that applicable when the rocket scientists themselves mostly despise this thing? SLS as a platform was forced on the scientists by the politicians. Also from a science perspective: the funding of this boondoggle has sucked the air out of the room, lots of other projects weren’t funded to make this thing happen. Seems like all SLS discussion is inherently political.
  - gsibble 4y ago
    Totally agree.
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fnordpiglet 4y ago
I consider a highly complex engineering effort identifying a bug before production and preventing an incident before the system has ever been tested end to end a victory. But I’m sure your systems never have production issues.
- ryanSrich 4y ago
  I think OP could have better illustrated their point. Which I believe is that governments are pretty bad at succeeding with projects that require innovation. This is especially true of the US in the last 20 years. Not to mention the public sector pays 2-5x more than government agencies. I’m not saying this is a problem purely solved by better pay and greater talent, but I don’t think we can say it’s not.
  - kiba 4y ago
    The US government is plenty fine of funding technological innovation. Look at the military industrial complex. F-35, despite being a gold plated boondongle is a really capable aircraft that is getting cheaper to produce.
  - fnordpiglet 4y ago
    Building an orbital fueling station and a moon base isn’t innovative? Artemis isn’t about hydrogen fuel pumps.
- newaccount2021 4y ago
gsibble 4y ago
Don't let the downvotes get to you. You're right. See the train to nowhere in CA as another example.
elurg 4y ago
Launch delays for new rockets are extremely common for all providers everywhere. While there big problems with the SLS program such a small delay on the pad is not one of them.

Sadly emblematic for the US; tens of billions spent with no visible outcome No different than our approach to infrastructure, education, Healthcare, broadband....plenty of money, no results

admax88qqq 4y ago

We could have an interesting discussion about the challenges of literal rocket science. Or we can turn this into yet another bitchfest about government inefficiency.

zionic 4y ago
Is that applicable when the rocket scientists themselves mostly despise this thing? SLS as a platform was forced on the scientists by the politicians. Also from a science perspective: the funding of this boondoggle has sucked the air out of the room, lots of other projects weren’t funded to make this thing happen. Seems like all SLS discussion is inherently political.
- gsibble 4y ago
  Totally agree.
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fnordpiglet 4y ago

I consider a highly complex engineering effort identifying a bug before production and preventing an incident before the system has ever been tested end to end a victory. But I’m sure your systems never have production issues.

ryanSrich 4y ago
I think OP could have better illustrated their point. Which I believe is that governments are pretty bad at succeeding with projects that require innovation. This is especially true of the US in the last 20 years. Not to mention the public sector pays 2-5x more than government agencies. I’m not saying this is a problem purely solved by better pay and greater talent, but I don’t think we can say it’s not.
- kiba 4y ago
  The US government is plenty fine of funding technological innovation. Look at the military industrial complex. F-35, despite being a gold plated boondongle is a really capable aircraft that is getting cheaper to produce.
- fnordpiglet 4y ago
  Building an orbital fueling station and a moon base isn’t innovative? Artemis isn’t about hydrogen fuel pumps.
newaccount2021 4y ago

gsibble 4y ago

Don't let the downvotes get to you. You're right. See the train to nowhere in CA as another example.

elurg 4y ago

Launch delays for new rockets are extremely common for all providers everywhere. While there big problems with the SLS program such a small delay on the pad is not one of them.