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> KF is a site for documenting weird people and laughing at them My understanding of bullying is that it includes that behaviour. > not proactively harassing

> KF is a site for documenting weird people and laughing at them My understanding of bullying is that it includes that behaviour. > not proactively harassing them. That is blind to the mechanisms of stochastic terrorism. One can encourage certain behaviour, knowing that statistically, someone will go overboard and do what they wish would happen. Then they can disavow it and ban them. Rinse, repeat.

_dain_ 4y ago
>My understanding of bullying is that it includes that behaviour. it's like one of those irregular verbs, isn't it? I am bringing accountability, you are a journalist, he is a bully. >That is blind to the mechanisms of stochastic terrorism. One can encourage certain behaviour, knowing that statistically, someone will go overboard and do what they wish would happen. Then they can disavow it and ban them. Rinse, repeat. this is self-evidently ridiculous. it would justify any kind and degree of censorship anything of remotely controversial, and there's no way to disprove the accusation. someone, somewhere, becomes "radicalized" and commit some crime, and months ago you said something vaguely related to it: that means you're a "stochastic terrorist". it's an absurd thought-terminating cliche. and note that this is never applied with any kind of consistency or good faith, and never to people comfortably inside the Overton window even when they do objectively evil shit. e.g. will the neocon pundits who lied for months about Iraqi WMDs ever be prosecuted as "stochastic terrorists" because they made it more likely that the US went overboard and launched an illegal war? will BLM organizers get done for "stochastic terrorism" because their rhetoric made race riots more likely? "stochastic terrorism" is just a fancier and more sinister way of saying "stirring up trouble", a catchall excuse/euphemism for authority to clamp down on speech they don't like.
- UncleMeat 4y ago
  "Accountability." Journalism is a profession with backing organizations and an ethical code. Random idiots posting about transwomen they don't like isn't that.
  - _dain_ 4y ago
    if you actually bothered to look into the matter, you'd see that it's more than just "posting about transwomen they don't like"; the transwoman in question is demonstrably a paedophile and there's ample proof via screenshots and chatlogs in the KF thread. this is why keffals doesn't want you to see the site. there is more diligence and fact-checking on KF than in many "professional" news organizations.
    - UncleMeat 4y ago
      Sure are a lot more slurs against black people, jewish people, and trans people in the contents of this "journalism" than I find even in outlets like the NY Post. Odd.

_dain_ 4y ago

>My understanding of bullying is that it includes that behaviour. it's like one of those irregular verbs, isn't it? I am bringing accountability, you are a journalist, he is a bully. >That is blind to the mechanisms of stochastic terrorism. One can encourage certain behaviour, knowing that statistically, someone will go overboard and do what they wish would happen. Then they can disavow it and ban them. Rinse, repeat. this is self-evidently ridiculous. it would justify any kind and degree of censorship anything of remotely controversial, and there's no way to disprove the accusation. someone, somewhere, becomes "radicalized" and commit some crime, and months ago you said something vaguely related to it: that means you're a "stochastic terrorist". it's an absurd thought-terminating cliche. and note that this is never applied with any kind of consistency or good faith, and never to people comfortably inside the Overton window even when they do objectively evil shit. e.g. will the neocon pundits who lied for months about Iraqi WMDs ever be prosecuted as "stochastic terrorists" because they made it more likely that the US went overboard and launched an illegal war? will BLM organizers get done for "stochastic terrorism" because their rhetoric made race riots more likely? "stochastic terrorism" is just a fancier and more sinister way of saying "stirring up trouble", a catchall excuse/euphemism for authority to clamp down on speech they don't like.

UncleMeat 4y ago
"Accountability." Journalism is a profession with backing organizations and an ethical code. Random idiots posting about transwomen they don't like isn't that.
- _dain_ 4y ago
  if you actually bothered to look into the matter, you'd see that it's more than just "posting about transwomen they don't like"; the transwoman in question is demonstrably a paedophile and there's ample proof via screenshots and chatlogs in the KF thread. this is why keffals doesn't want you to see the site. there is more diligence and fact-checking on KF than in many "professional" news organizations.
  - UncleMeat 4y ago
    Sure are a lot more slurs against black people, jewish people, and trans people in the contents of this "journalism" than I find even in outlets like the NY Post. Odd.