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You are a company if you get death threats against your own workers you have to act. These threats are not anonymous. There are legal implications if you do not

You are a company if you get death threats against your own workers you have to act. These threats are not anonymous. There are legal implications if you do nothing and something happens.

pseudo0 4y ago
Matthew Prince did not provide any information on the nature of the threats he claimed, but the two that were widely discussed on Twitter are addressed in the submitted post. Neither of them involve Cloudflare employees, so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.
- deleted 4y ago
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- kelseyfrog 4y ago
  Let's be clear, there is no level of evidence that would be acceptable to KF supporters. Asking for it is pointless because the response would be to discredit it regardless of what it was. So far we see, "it's a joke," "that's a bad apple," "you cant prove there is a connection," "you don't understand look but not touch," ad nauseum. We're just skipping the dialog tree to the part where CF had the power and KF didn't. Kind of a nothingburger if you ask me. KF lost the game - end of story.
  - dmix 4y ago
    KF is still around and if it wasn’t I’m sure it will be replaced within a month. These are some of the most technically sophisticated users on the internet who are obsessive about internet culture. They aren’t going away via wack-a-mole censorship and apparently their website traffic grew significantly thanks to all of the press they’ve received. It’s a good test to see how censorship resistant the internet can be.
ajsnigrutin 4y ago
Sure, if you get one or two... If you get 5000 from a twitter mob, from people living all around the world, you can still report, but there's pretty much zero chance that anything will happen to any of those 5000 people, because the threats are considered as "not real" and nobody wants to deal with 5000 cases (paperwork, warrants, judical process after, etc.)
- desindol 4y ago
  You are still liable.
  - ajsnigrutin 4y ago
    I'm not talking about not-reporting, i'm talking about the uselessness of reporting... you report, the police does nothing. Who are they going to sue? You did what you had to do, the police will do nothing, and suing the police for not investigating 5000 different people from all around the world... well.. good luck with that.
    - desindol 4y ago
      Yeah, that’s still not how the real world works. Liability is there even if you really think it’s all bullshit. No sane corp will ignore it especially not in the US.
      - monadgonad 4y ago
        You clearly did not read the post you're replying to at all. They are not talking about ignoring it or claiming that they are not liable.
        desindol 4y ago
        You have clearly no idea that you are still liable if you are not actively reducing the threat against your employees.
- 4y ago

You are a company if you get death threats against your own workers you have to act. These threats are not anonymous. There are legal implications if you do nothing and something happens.

pseudo0 4y ago

Matthew Prince did not provide any information on the nature of the threats he claimed, but the two that were widely discussed on Twitter are addressed in the submitted post. Neither of them involve Cloudflare employees, so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.

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kelseyfrog 4y ago
Let's be clear, there is no level of evidence that would be acceptable to KF supporters. Asking for it is pointless because the response would be to discredit it regardless of what it was. So far we see, "it's a joke," "that's a bad apple," "you cant prove there is a connection," "you don't understand look but not touch," ad nauseum. We're just skipping the dialog tree to the part where CF had the power and KF didn't. Kind of a nothingburger if you ask me. KF lost the game - end of story.
- dmix 4y ago
  KF is still around and if it wasn’t I’m sure it will be replaced within a month. These are some of the most technically sophisticated users on the internet who are obsessive about internet culture. They aren’t going away via wack-a-mole censorship and apparently their website traffic grew significantly thanks to all of the press they’ve received. It’s a good test to see how censorship resistant the internet can be.

ajsnigrutin 4y ago

Sure, if you get one or two... If you get 5000 from a twitter mob, from people living all around the world, you can still report, but there's pretty much zero chance that anything will happen to any of those 5000 people, because the threats are considered as "not real" and nobody wants to deal with 5000 cases (paperwork, warrants, judical process after, etc.)

desindol 4y ago
You are still liable.
- ajsnigrutin 4y ago
  I'm not talking about not-reporting, i'm talking about the uselessness of reporting... you report, the police does nothing. Who are they going to sue? You did what you had to do, the police will do nothing, and suing the police for not investigating 5000 different people from all around the world... well.. good luck with that.
  - desindol 4y ago
    Yeah, that’s still not how the real world works. Liability is there even if you really think it’s all bullshit. No sane corp will ignore it especially not in the US.
    - monadgonad 4y ago
      You clearly did not read the post you're replying to at all. They are not talking about ignoring it or claiming that they are not liable.
      - desindol 4y ago
        You have clearly no idea that you are still liable if you are not actively reducing the threat against your employees.
4y ago