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Is there some way to learn hangul to be able to write it? I dont ask about learning actual Korean. Just Hangul yo say "write English in Hangul" - if it is poss

by rvba 4y ago

Is there some way to learn hangul to be able to write it? I dont ask about learning actual Korean. Just Hangul yo say "write English in Hangul" - if it is possible. Or some service that "translitetates" your name to Hangul?

half-kh-hacker 4y ago
You can transliterate English to Hangeul but you'll end up missing some sounds (e.g. you'll not be able to super easily get 'th' or 'f' or 'v' or 'z') because Korean doesn't use those
j-bos 4y ago
Hangul is actually very easy to learn, so much so that it can trick you (me) into thinking Korean should be a snap. To answer you're question, you can find multiple pre built anki decks just for hangul. If you want a quick reference page on the characters, search 'hangul character guide'. This video was also helpful for me: https://youtu.be/TVqJbiSLw-E https://youtu.be/TVqJbiSLw-E
- thaumasiotes 4y ago
  > Hangul is actually very easy to learn, so much so that it can trick you (me) into thinking Korean should be a snap. I don't really understand this. It's even easier to learn the Italian writing system, coming from English, than it is to learn the Korean writing system. Who concludes from that that it's going to be easy to learn to speak Italian?
  - a1369209993 4y ago
    > Who concludes from that that it's going to be easy Peoples' preconscious lizard brain, that generates gut feelings and first impressions based on superficial brute-force pattern-matching, presumably.
  - terrorOf 4y ago
igorkraw 4y ago
It's actually easy enough to be done in 30 minutes (the guide says 15 but I'm old and slow): https://www.ryanestrada.com/learntoreadkoreanin15minutes/ https://www.ryanestrada.com/learntoreadkoreanin15minutes/ you simply insert padding-vocals and "silences" to make the syllable stuff line up, my name (Igor) becomes (silence)I-go-ru.
- manual89 4y ago
  That sounds more like a Japanese transliteration. Korean provides for the "gor" to be expressed in a single character. 이 "ee" 골 "gor"
  - user982 4y ago
    Korean consonants have slightly different sounds at the beginning and end of a syllable. ㄹ is pronounced as L at the end of a block, but R at the beginning of one, hence the additional syllable.
masklinn 4y ago
Hangul itself is quite easy: https://www.ryanestrada.com/learntoreadkoreanin15minutes/ https://www.ryanestrada.com/learntoreadkoreanin15minutes/ But the Korean phonology is different from English and generally simpler so you’ll need to approximate a fair bit (not unlike English words in Japanese phonology).
- kibwen 4y ago
  Has anyone designed a Hangul-like alphabet that supports IPA (or even just English) phonemes?
  - faitswulff 4y ago
    IPA probably doesn’t work like you think it does. I also had this misconception that it was a “universal alphabet,” but apparently even linguists have to learn subsets of IPA in order to properly pronounce phonemes in different languages.
    - samatman 4y ago
      The person you're replying to said phoneme, suggesting awareness of the phonetic/phonemic distinction. > apparently even linguists have to learn subsets of IPA in order to properly pronounce phonemes in different languages I don't actually understand what you mean by this clause, but if we strip some words, "linguists learn subsets of IPA in order to properly pronounce phonemes in different languages" is in fact exactly what IPA is for.
      - faitswulff 4y ago
        The point is you can’t just learn IPA and know how to pronounce everything with it. No one knows “all” of IPA.
    - coldtea 4y ago
      >I also had this misconception that it was a “universal alphabet,” but apparently even linguists have to learn subsets of IPA in order to properly pronounce phonemes in different languages. What exactly do you mean above? If "subsets of IPA" are enough to "properly pronounce phonemes in different languages" then IPA is indeed a "universal alphabet". More or less, the same way different subsets of Unicode cover most/all languages, which makes it a universal encoding. Did you meant to imply that IPA would be a universal alphabet only if all of it was needed to cover each language - and e.g. no IPA-letters were redundant for covering this or that language?
changoplatanero 4y ago
You could learn most of it in about five minutes! Search on YouTube and you’ll find some guides.

by rvba 4y ago

half-kh-hacker 4y ago

You can transliterate English to Hangeul but you'll end up missing some sounds (e.g. you'll not be able to super easily get 'th' or 'f' or 'v' or 'z') because Korean doesn't use those

j-bos 4y ago

Hangul is actually very easy to learn, so much so that it can trick you (me) into thinking Korean should be a snap. To answer you're question, you can find multiple pre built anki decks just for hangul. If you want a quick reference page on the characters, search 'hangul character guide'. This video was also helpful for me: https://youtu.be/TVqJbiSLw-E https://youtu.be/TVqJbiSLw-E

thaumasiotes 4y ago
> Hangul is actually very easy to learn, so much so that it can trick you (me) into thinking Korean should be a snap. I don't really understand this. It's even easier to learn the Italian writing system, coming from English, than it is to learn the Korean writing system. Who concludes from that that it's going to be easy to learn to speak Italian?
- a1369209993 4y ago
  > Who concludes from that that it's going to be easy Peoples' preconscious lizard brain, that generates gut feelings and first impressions based on superficial brute-force pattern-matching, presumably.
- terrorOf 4y ago

igorkraw 4y ago

It's actually easy enough to be done in 30 minutes (the guide says 15 but I'm old and slow): https://www.ryanestrada.com/learntoreadkoreanin15minutes/ https://www.ryanestrada.com/learntoreadkoreanin15minutes/ you simply insert padding-vocals and "silences" to make the syllable stuff line up, my name (Igor) becomes (silence)I-go-ru.

manual89 4y ago
That sounds more like a Japanese transliteration. Korean provides for the "gor" to be expressed in a single character. 이 "ee" 골 "gor"
- user982 4y ago
  Korean consonants have slightly different sounds at the beginning and end of a syllable. ㄹ is pronounced as L at the end of a block, but R at the beginning of one, hence the additional syllable.

masklinn 4y ago

Hangul itself is quite easy: https://www.ryanestrada.com/learntoreadkoreanin15minutes/ https://www.ryanestrada.com/learntoreadkoreanin15minutes/ But the Korean phonology is different from English and generally simpler so you’ll need to approximate a fair bit (not unlike English words in Japanese phonology).

kibwen 4y ago
Has anyone designed a Hangul-like alphabet that supports IPA (or even just English) phonemes?
- faitswulff 4y ago
  IPA probably doesn’t work like you think it does. I also had this misconception that it was a “universal alphabet,” but apparently even linguists have to learn subsets of IPA in order to properly pronounce phonemes in different languages.
  - samatman 4y ago
    The person you're replying to said phoneme, suggesting awareness of the phonetic/phonemic distinction. > apparently even linguists have to learn subsets of IPA in order to properly pronounce phonemes in different languages I don't actually understand what you mean by this clause, but if we strip some words, "linguists learn subsets of IPA in order to properly pronounce phonemes in different languages" is in fact exactly what IPA is for.
    - faitswulff 4y ago
      The point is you can’t just learn IPA and know how to pronounce everything with it. No one knows “all” of IPA.
  - coldtea 4y ago
    >I also had this misconception that it was a “universal alphabet,” but apparently even linguists have to learn subsets of IPA in order to properly pronounce phonemes in different languages. What exactly do you mean above? If "subsets of IPA" are enough to "properly pronounce phonemes in different languages" then IPA is indeed a "universal alphabet". More or less, the same way different subsets of Unicode cover most/all languages, which makes it a universal encoding. Did you meant to imply that IPA would be a universal alphabet only if all of it was needed to cover each language - and e.g. no IPA-letters were redundant for covering this or that language?

changoplatanero 4y ago

You could learn most of it in about five minutes! Search on YouTube and you’ll find some guides.