> If you don't believe individuals have a right to be born, I didn't say I believe it or not. This isn't going to be some gotcha about my beliefs, I was explai

> If you don't believe individuals have a right to be born, I didn't say I believe it or not. This isn't going to be some gotcha about my beliefs, I was explaining to the OP why this kind of thing is controversial. > what is wrong with a state eugenics program, as long as it is not coercive or manipulative (that is, as long as it is done with the free consent of the parents)? Well coercive or manipulative are not black-and-white, and there is concern that the line is over stepped. But leaving that aside, I go back to my first post. Would you have any concerns with a government eugenics program to eliminate trans people from society using genetic screening and abortion counseling informing expectant parents about the horrible disadvantage, discrimination, and horrific physical and mental suffering that they go through at extremely high rates, and assuring them that abortions are a good treatment? You skipped the question really. It's not where exactly you draw the line with disadvantage and difficulty, and it's not about an individual making their own personal choices. I'm asking about a government eugenics program with such a goal. Well I don't want this to be a gotcha about your beliefs either, so I don't really need you to answer, the question is more to get people thinking about why the whole issue is not as simple as it seems.