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That's the default for everyone working in Europe

ChuckNorris89 4y ago
It's not. Most jobs in most countries get less than 30 days vacation. Germany's German speaking neighbors it's 25 days.
rolisz 4y ago
Europe is composed of a lot of countries, which all have different laws. In Romania, minimum vacation days are 20 days and very few companies give more than that, except maybe for seniority.
PicassoCTs 4y ago
Is it really though? I ve been going around european companies and its all work till you drop 80h culture and no holiday, cause we need a guy on standbye. That stuff only ever exists on paper.
- ahartmetz 4y ago
  Which companies in which countries? I'm in Germany and I have never ever seen or (from friends and acquaintances) heard of vacations not taken due to pressure from the employer. It's about as common as an employer arbitrarily deciding to transfer less than the agreed amount of salary at the end of the month - maybe some very dubious employers have done it at some point, but it's not something to worry about. What is fairly common is employers reminding employees to take their vacation days before they expire. Vacation days from year n expire in April or so of year n+1. That is intended to prevent postponing vacations to never (maybe until switching jobs).
  - PicassoCTs 4y ago
    Im in germany, and the pressure is there. Old employer at least gave vacations, but shifted them as needed. New employer basically denies vacations categorically, cause nobody else can take care of the system. All this talk about labour laws etc. its like people hallucinating, cause in my world this just aint real.
    - pjmlp 4y ago
      https://www.arbeitsrecht.de/ https://www.arbeitsrecht.de/ Complaining without asking for legal help, well don't complain. And given we are talking about IT here, IG Metal is another place to get help.
- pjmlp 4y ago
  Which countries, I have worked in several European countries, and none of them were that bad. That looks like a case that needs to be reported to work inspection authorities.
pjmlp 4y ago
Nope, it is common in central and northern Europe, in other countries that would be part of extra package on top of what the local law requires.

It's not. Most jobs in most countries get less than 30 days vacation. Germany's German speaking neighbors it's 25 days.

Europe is composed of a lot of countries, which all have different laws. In Romania, minimum vacation days are 20 days and very few companies give more than that, except maybe for seniority.

PicassoCTs 4y ago

Is it really though? I ve been going around european companies and its all work till you drop 80h culture and no holiday, cause we need a guy on standbye. That stuff only ever exists on paper.

ahartmetz 4y ago
Which companies in which countries? I'm in Germany and I have never ever seen or (from friends and acquaintances) heard of vacations not taken due to pressure from the employer. It's about as common as an employer arbitrarily deciding to transfer less than the agreed amount of salary at the end of the month - maybe some very dubious employers have done it at some point, but it's not something to worry about. What is fairly common is employers reminding employees to take their vacation days before they expire. Vacation days from year n expire in April or so of year n+1. That is intended to prevent postponing vacations to never (maybe until switching jobs).
- PicassoCTs 4y ago
  Im in germany, and the pressure is there. Old employer at least gave vacations, but shifted them as needed. New employer basically denies vacations categorically, cause nobody else can take care of the system. All this talk about labour laws etc. its like people hallucinating, cause in my world this just aint real.
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    https://www.arbeitsrecht.de/ https://www.arbeitsrecht.de/ Complaining without asking for legal help, well don't complain. And given we are talking about IT here, IG Metal is another place to get help.
pjmlp 4y ago
Which countries, I have worked in several European countries, and none of them were that bad. That looks like a case that needs to be reported to work inspection authorities.

pjmlp 4y ago

Nope, it is common in central and northern Europe, in other countries that would be part of extra package on top of what the local law requires.