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> You're arguing for a murderous dictator. I'm not arguing for anybody. You obviously have very strong feelings about this subject. But, please do not attrib

> You're arguing for a murderous dictator. I'm not arguing for anybody. You obviously have very strong feelings about this subject. But, please do not attribute to me positions I have not expressed. My actual positions (as stated above): War kills and maims people. Killing and maiming people should be avoided. Russia made statements about why they felt the need for war. Taking those statements at face value would have caused no harm if they were false-- we would simply be in the same place as we are today with war. Taking those statements at face value could have saved many Ukrainian and Russian lives if they were true and addressed. Russia's stated concerns have not been addressed in peace negotiations, so we do not know if war could have been avoided or if the war could be brought to an end sooner. Russians and Ukrainians are currently killing and maiming each other. The history of the situation is complicated-- there is more than the typical western narrative encompasses. Russia must bear responsibility for their decision to go to war. But, the US is possibly antagonistic toward negotiations. At a minimum, the US has not engaged in negotiations nor addressed Russia's stated concerns and thus threw away a potential opportunity to prevent bloodshed. US/NATO pumping weapons into Ukraine serves to extend the conflict (and the death count) before the inevitable negotiations to end the conflict. To summarize, I'd prefer if we made an effort to not kill people.

invalidname 4y ago
Russia lies. A lot. Why the hell go to the premise of taking anything they say at face value? There are multiple steps before going to war. Putin was looking for an excuse to go to war and also tried fabricating stuff like Nazis controlling Ukraine (which has a Jewish president) because he knew this is a flimsy excuse. Repeating this nonsense gives validity to a war criminal. > Russians and Ukrainians are currently killing and maiming each other. No. One side invaded the other. This isn't symmetric. > The history of the situation is complicated No. There's a lot of noise in terms of history. But people use it to mask simple facts. A dictator invaded a sovereign nation. Killed civilians who he claims to protect. The US isn't at fault in any way. You can't negotiate with a liar who violates agreements. Russia attacked US elections in a blatant way and explicitly instigated a policy of sabotage. There were plenty of opportunities along the way to de-escalate. But the US didn't escalate. It very explicitly stated early on that no soldiers will go into Ukraine. It made it hard for Ukraine to join NATO, etc. Putin violated the status quo. They arm Ukraine because the alternative would be the annihilation of the country. So far the Russian forces took over areas and forced migration into Russia, killed people in the streets, etc. These are terrible people. > To summarize, I'd prefer if we made an effort to not kill people. This is nonsense. A lot of effort was put into that. Unfortunately, sometimes the only thing you can do is stand up and protect your country. This is what the people of Ukraine are doing. Putin isn't giving them a choice. They have talks all the time. In the talks people literally got poisoned! You're perpetuating a false Russian narrative that has been discredited time and time again.

invalidname 4y ago

Russia lies. A lot. Why the hell go to the premise of taking anything they say at face value? There are multiple steps before going to war. Putin was looking for an excuse to go to war and also tried fabricating stuff like Nazis controlling Ukraine (which has a Jewish president) because he knew this is a flimsy excuse. Repeating this nonsense gives validity to a war criminal. > Russians and Ukrainians are currently killing and maiming each other. No. One side invaded the other. This isn't symmetric. > The history of the situation is complicated No. There's a lot of noise in terms of history. But people use it to mask simple facts. A dictator invaded a sovereign nation. Killed civilians who he claims to protect. The US isn't at fault in any way. You can't negotiate with a liar who violates agreements. Russia attacked US elections in a blatant way and explicitly instigated a policy of sabotage. There were plenty of opportunities along the way to de-escalate. But the US didn't escalate. It very explicitly stated early on that no soldiers will go into Ukraine. It made it hard for Ukraine to join NATO, etc. Putin violated the status quo. They arm Ukraine because the alternative would be the annihilation of the country. So far the Russian forces took over areas and forced migration into Russia, killed people in the streets, etc. These are terrible people. > To summarize, I'd prefer if we made an effort to not kill people. This is nonsense. A lot of effort was put into that. Unfortunately, sometimes the only thing you can do is stand up and protect your country. This is what the people of Ukraine are doing. Putin isn't giving them a choice. They have talks all the time. In the talks people literally got poisoned! You're perpetuating a false Russian narrative that has been discredited time and time again.