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Just FYI moog music’s employees have been trying to unionize and the corp has been doing some shady union busting tactics (and some shady employment practices t

Just FYI moog music’s employees have been trying to unionize and the corp has been doing some shady union busting tactics (and some shady employment practices that kicked off the unionization effort in the first place). Personally I won’t be buying from them until they allow the union to form unimpeded or the workers reject it. https://www.instagram.com/p/CiAvIrwL-VC/ https://www.instagram.com/p/CiAvIrwL-VC/

jdkee 4y ago
That is odd, I thought Moog was employee owned? See https://audioxpress.com/news/Moog-Music-Is-Now-a-Company-Owned-by-Its-Employees https://audioxpress.com/news/Moog-Music-Is-Now-a-Company-Own...
- kennywinker 4y ago
  > While Moog Music is 49% employee-owned, the workers say that employee ownership falls short with regards to providing stable livable employment. They note that the starting hourly rate at Moog for assemblers, packers, and warehouse workers is $14.10/hour, but a living wage in Asheville is $17.70/hour. https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2022/06/02/moog-music-workers-organize-to-synthesize-unions/ https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2022/06/02/moog-music-wor...
pyinstallwoes 4y ago
Good, more stock for me!
- kennywinker 4y ago
  Acting together with your fellow workers is how people who work take power back from people who own. Willfully turning your back on that is… short sighted to say the least. Unless your income comes from ownership, in which case you’re closing the door behind you - a worse thing to do, in my opinion.
  - pyinstallwoes 4y ago
    I prefer to work with people who are working for the same reasons, and don't resort to legal warfare to do so. You either agree to work together or don't, find another company elsewise. It's pretty simple really.
    - kennywinker 4y ago
      Presumably you negotiated your current employment contract, yeah? Wages, responsibilities, etc. Unions aren’t “legal warfare” - they’re a tool to help contract negotiations when a group of employees doesn’t have enough power to be treated fairly as individuals. It sounds like you’ve been lucky enough to not be in the circumstance of being treated unfairly as an individual. I’m happy that’s been the case - but that’s no excuse for ignoring when that happens to others.

jdkee 4y ago

That is odd, I thought Moog was employee owned? See https://audioxpress.com/news/Moog-Music-Is-Now-a-Company-Owned-by-Its-Employees https://audioxpress.com/news/Moog-Music-Is-Now-a-Company-Own...

kennywinker 4y ago
> While Moog Music is 49% employee-owned, the workers say that employee ownership falls short with regards to providing stable livable employment. They note that the starting hourly rate at Moog for assemblers, packers, and warehouse workers is $14.10/hour, but a living wage in Asheville is $17.70/hour. https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2022/06/02/moog-music-workers-organize-to-synthesize-unions/ https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2022/06/02/moog-music-wor...

pyinstallwoes 4y ago

Good, more stock for me!

kennywinker 4y ago
Acting together with your fellow workers is how people who work take power back from people who own. Willfully turning your back on that is… short sighted to say the least. Unless your income comes from ownership, in which case you’re closing the door behind you - a worse thing to do, in my opinion.
- pyinstallwoes 4y ago
  I prefer to work with people who are working for the same reasons, and don't resort to legal warfare to do so. You either agree to work together or don't, find another company elsewise. It's pretty simple really.
  - kennywinker 4y ago
    Presumably you negotiated your current employment contract, yeah? Wages, responsibilities, etc. Unions aren’t “legal warfare” - they’re a tool to help contract negotiations when a group of employees doesn’t have enough power to be treated fairly as individuals. It sounds like you’ve been lucky enough to not be in the circumstance of being treated unfairly as an individual. I’m happy that’s been the case - but that’s no excuse for ignoring when that happens to others.