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Completely unnecessary, a lot of adults had a chance to stop and think but they didn’t. How about we don’t hold 10-year old 4-H members to contracts (pretty sur

Completely unnecessary, a lot of adults had a chance to stop and think but they didn’t. How about we don’t hold 10-year old 4-H members to contracts (pretty sure they can’t anyway). Why are Sheriff deputies jumping on a case like this. Maybe the parents should not have let it get that far to be auctioned off, seems like they would have know before that their daughter considered it a pet.

superchroma 4y ago
Yes. The amount of people leaping straight to law in this thread is alarming, and I believe that that reflex is a cultural sickness. Why do we as a people bother producing things like Hallmark movies if this is the awful reality of american life, devoid of sentimentality, kindness and patience? I hope people consume such media because they aspire for things to be better some day.
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago
  This is a story of stupid parents. They waited until the day of to bother doing anything. Then they absconded with the animal after it had been auctioned. They should absolutely be allowed to back out of the auction with reasonable notice. And I can empathise—if someone came for my pets I’d do what was necessary, the law be damned. But they proceeded idiotically and are now filing petty suits against the cops of all people, cops who executed a warrant signed by a judge.
  - superchroma 4y ago
    People are careless and stupid. I am extremely grateful for all the times people have gone out of their way to accommodate my failures and shortcomings. The world would be a much grimmer place if we all went through it without being flexible in any way. I think endorsing that style of operating is a cultural sickness; fighting to suppress some of the best qualities we have as a race.
    - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
      > world would be a much grimmer place if we all went through it without being flexible in any way I believe there should have been leeway. But remedy under the law? The parents are suing. They aren’t advocating for a bill providing for pets’ rights. They aren’t raising money for a shelter. They’re litigating on scarce technicalities in civil procedure in pursuit of a payout and possibly vengeance, the end result of which will be minor rulebook amendments and lawyers paid handsomely on all sides. Accommodations are exceptions. We can hope they occur. But we can’t throw a tantrum when they don’t materialise.
      - superchroma 4y ago
        I wasn't talking about the lawsuit. I am not interested in the lawsuit. Since you wish to dwell on the mundane, however: You can throw a tantrum for any reason you like. It is your god-given right as a human to throw a tantrum, and it is constitutionally protected, to boot. Additionally, you can sue any american for any legally based reason you can think of. That is also a legal right afforded to you. You have a right to seek remedy under law for legal matters if you feel so inclined. It is additionally your right to not advocate for pet's rights. It is lastly your right to not raise money for a shelter. Victim blaming and then going on to expect a victim to arbitrarily perform moral penance to your standards in lieu of seeking restitution is a bizarre position. The courts will promptly resolve this business in due course and in concert with lawyers will bill the victim accordingly for the cost of their use.
        JumpCrisscross 4y ago
        Sure. They’re within their rights to be stupid. They’re still being stupid, and what happened to them happened because they went about it stupidly. They shouldn’t get an accommodation because of a string of stupid decisions, and they don’t deserve restitution. To the extent they do get restitution it will be because the fair and program didn’t spend enough on lawyers; now they will and the next person won’t.
  - hshsuzhbs 4y ago

superchroma 4y ago

Yes. The amount of people leaping straight to law in this thread is alarming, and I believe that that reflex is a cultural sickness. Why do we as a people bother producing things like Hallmark movies if this is the awful reality of american life, devoid of sentimentality, kindness and patience? I hope people consume such media because they aspire for things to be better some day.

JumpCrisscross 4y ago
This is a story of stupid parents. They waited until the day of to bother doing anything. Then they absconded with the animal after it had been auctioned. They should absolutely be allowed to back out of the auction with reasonable notice. And I can empathise—if someone came for my pets I’d do what was necessary, the law be damned. But they proceeded idiotically and are now filing petty suits against the cops of all people, cops who executed a warrant signed by a judge.
- superchroma 4y ago
  People are careless and stupid. I am extremely grateful for all the times people have gone out of their way to accommodate my failures and shortcomings. The world would be a much grimmer place if we all went through it without being flexible in any way. I think endorsing that style of operating is a cultural sickness; fighting to suppress some of the best qualities we have as a race.
  - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
    > world would be a much grimmer place if we all went through it without being flexible in any way I believe there should have been leeway. But remedy under the law? The parents are suing. They aren’t advocating for a bill providing for pets’ rights. They aren’t raising money for a shelter. They’re litigating on scarce technicalities in civil procedure in pursuit of a payout and possibly vengeance, the end result of which will be minor rulebook amendments and lawyers paid handsomely on all sides. Accommodations are exceptions. We can hope they occur. But we can’t throw a tantrum when they don’t materialise.
    - superchroma 4y ago
      I wasn't talking about the lawsuit. I am not interested in the lawsuit. Since you wish to dwell on the mundane, however: You can throw a tantrum for any reason you like. It is your god-given right as a human to throw a tantrum, and it is constitutionally protected, to boot. Additionally, you can sue any american for any legally based reason you can think of. That is also a legal right afforded to you. You have a right to seek remedy under law for legal matters if you feel so inclined. It is additionally your right to not advocate for pet's rights. It is lastly your right to not raise money for a shelter. Victim blaming and then going on to expect a victim to arbitrarily perform moral penance to your standards in lieu of seeking restitution is a bizarre position. The courts will promptly resolve this business in due course and in concert with lawyers will bill the victim accordingly for the cost of their use.
      - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
        Sure. They’re within their rights to be stupid. They’re still being stupid, and what happened to them happened because they went about it stupidly. They shouldn’t get an accommodation because of a string of stupid decisions, and they don’t deserve restitution. To the extent they do get restitution it will be because the fair and program didn’t spend enough on lawyers; now they will and the next person won’t.
- hshsuzhbs 4y ago