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Germany′s energy saving rules come into force

14 points by protomyth 4y ago

TurkishPoptart 4y ago
The list of measures included seem quite sensible for energy-saving, though I am thankful that I do not live there. The only measure that struck me as very odd was >"Private pools may no longer be heated with gas and electricity, except for rehab centers, recreational facilities, and hotels. The new regulations will initially apply until the end of February." I'm not sure how common private pools are in Germany, but I'm just curious how one could heat the pool without gas neither electricity. Is there some other option? Obviously, the sun will heat it in summer, and aside from that? I've never owned a home with a pool, and they seem quite wasteful, but if I had a private pool, how does the government get me to stop heating it?
- hulitu 4y ago
  > but I'm just curious how one could heat the pool without gas neither electricity. Just be green like the government and use coal or wood to heat your pool. /s They say forests are regenerable but they only achieved renewable tree monocultures.
- gonzo 4y ago
  > is there some other option People in sunny climates put solar water heaters (heat exchangers) in to heat the pool. > how does the government get me to stop heating it Fines. If that doesn’t work, maybe they restrict gas to your home like California is starting to restrict water for places that continue to water the lawn.
- schemester 4y ago
  Coal and wood are possible. Maybe off-the-grid solar is still allowed.
- toomuchtodo 4y ago
  Pools can be heated with heat pumps. Much cheaper than gas, even in the US. Curious if electricity is defined as resistive heat or an all out ban on using electricity (including heat pumps). Tangentially, you can use a heat pump to move heat from within a structure into an adjacent or relatively close pool with a heat exchanger and properly configured coolant loops/condensing unit(s). https://www.energy.gov/energysaver/heat-pump-swimming-pool-heaters https://www.energy.gov/energysaver/heat-pump-swimming-pool-h...
basicplus2 4y ago
Gasify coal.. gas tanker ships from Australia.. plenty of options to permanently replace Russian gas
- Proven 4y ago
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rs999gti 4y ago
Sounds like policy is the only thing keeping DE from turning its reactors back on https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/could-germany-keep-its-nuclear-plants-running-2022-06-22/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/could-germany-keep-its-...

14 points by protomyth 4y ago

The list of measures included seem quite sensible for energy-saving, though I am thankful that I do not live there. The only measure that struck me as very odd was >"Private pools may no longer be heated with gas and electricity, except for rehab centers, recreational facilities, and hotels. The new regulations will initially apply until the end of February." I'm not sure how common private pools are in Germany, but I'm just curious how one could heat the pool without gas neither electricity. Is there some other option? Obviously, the sun will heat it in summer, and aside from that? I've never owned a home with a pool, and they seem quite wasteful, but if I had a private pool, how does the government get me to stop heating it?

hulitu 4y ago
> but I'm just curious how one could heat the pool without gas neither electricity. Just be green like the government and use coal or wood to heat your pool. /s They say forests are regenerable but they only achieved renewable tree monocultures.
gonzo 4y ago
> is there some other option People in sunny climates put solar water heaters (heat exchangers) in to heat the pool. > how does the government get me to stop heating it Fines. If that doesn’t work, maybe they restrict gas to your home like California is starting to restrict water for places that continue to water the lawn.
schemester 4y ago
Coal and wood are possible. Maybe off-the-grid solar is still allowed.
toomuchtodo 4y ago
Pools can be heated with heat pumps. Much cheaper than gas, even in the US. Curious if electricity is defined as resistive heat or an all out ban on using electricity (including heat pumps). Tangentially, you can use a heat pump to move heat from within a structure into an adjacent or relatively close pool with a heat exchanger and properly configured coolant loops/condensing unit(s). https://www.energy.gov/energysaver/heat-pump-swimming-pool-heaters https://www.energy.gov/energysaver/heat-pump-swimming-pool-h...

basicplus2 4y ago

Gasify coal.. gas tanker ships from Australia.. plenty of options to permanently replace Russian gas

Proven 4y ago
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rs999gti 4y ago

Sounds like policy is the only thing keeping DE from turning its reactors back on https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/could-germany-keep-its-nuclear-plants-running-2022-06-22/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/could-germany-keep-its-...