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Good, it's been a while I wanted to get my hand on someone who actually want to buy such big cars. What is it with the trend for huge cars? Why do people have t

Good, it's been a while I wanted to get my hand on someone who actually want to buy such big cars. What is it with the trend for huge cars? Why do people have to negate EVs energy efficiency story pushing around much more weight than (what to used to be) a normal sized car. Haven't you heard of climate change? At least buy an Aptera for chrissake. Well anyways, we're doomed of we keep on the car lifestyle.

dchest 4y ago
RAV 4 is not a big car.
- epgui 4y ago
  It's bigger than most cars you'd find in most of the world. Where's your threshold for "big"?
  - dcormier 4y ago
    Most cars in the US are bigger than most cars you'd find in most of the world.
    - epgui 4y ago
      Exactly, and this is related to the question "What is it with the trend for huge cars?", as this trend has largely been an American one.
  - dchest 4y ago
    It's only 5 cm wider and longer than a Honda Civic. It's higher, of course, since it's a "compact crossover", but not as high as Suzuki Jimny, for example.
    - epgui 4y ago
      I mean, in this context I don't think when the word "big" was used it was referring to the surface area from a bird's eye view. There's many different ways you could think of something as being "big", but in this context I believe either volume, mass or even drag coefficient is what is most relevant to the thread.
      - dchest 4y ago
        Fiat 500L: Cx ~ 0.36, weight ~ 1300 kg RAV4: Cx ~ 0.32, weight ~ 1700 kg Ford F-150: Cx ~ 0.56, weight: 1900-2500 kg It's a small car for Americans, and a medium-sized car for Europeans.
- chasebank 4y ago
  It's now the size of a 1st and 2nd generation 4Runner.
kodah 4y ago
> What is it with the trend for huge cars I need to move next year because the city I live in (San Jose) is utterly unaffordable. Turns out there's a lot of things movers won't take for you including my vaste plant collection. I remember driving with all of my plants, valuables, and dog to San Jose. I had zero space left, yet now I have a long-term partner so I'll need more space for that move. Second, road trips. I go to a festival every year that's in the boondocks in Michigan. Getting there is no simple task so having a car like the Rav 4 Hybrid that gets excellent mileage and can get me across country~ish terrain is quite nice. > Why do people have to negate EVs energy efficiency story pushing around much more weight than (what to used to be) a normal sized car. The Rav4 Hybrid is... a hybrid. I don't know what you're on about. If you're asking why I didn't get a plugin EV it's because I need to haul stuff and EVs perform terribly at this task. Even if they did exist in a functional capacity I'd be hard pressed to find a place where I can quickly charge it. The housing crisis out here makes it difficult for me to buy a home, road trips would be a lot more inconvenient (I like to go to festivals, so they're long road trips.) Last but not least is cost. The Ford Lightning looked attractive to me, but then I found out as soon as you haul anything the battery basically pits. > Haven't you heard of climate change? Weird question, but yes. I used to be an executive at a water startup. > At least buy an Aptera for chrissak This is it? https://aptera.us/ https://aptera.us/ That would not solve my problem. Looks like they're reservation only. Looks like they're also having trouble sourcing parts, like Toyota: https://aptera.us/community/discussion/realistic-delivery-timeline/ https://aptera.us/community/discussion/realistic-delivery-ti... Personally, this reply wreaks of classism and doomerism. I don't know why this kind of take is so popular on HackerNews but I think y'all really need to think about the image you're selling to the rest of this forum and furthermore the image you're selling to people when you open your mouth and speak so shittily to people. This is especially true when you don't even commit one iota of your brainpiece to understanding my usecase before loudly complaining mixed with misplaced outrage and shaming. Last edit: You have inspired me to start working on a website to combat doomerism and encourage people to seek help.

dchest 4y ago

RAV 4 is not a big car.

epgui 4y ago
It's bigger than most cars you'd find in most of the world. Where's your threshold for "big"?
- dcormier 4y ago
  Most cars in the US are bigger than most cars you'd find in most of the world.
  - epgui 4y ago
    Exactly, and this is related to the question "What is it with the trend for huge cars?", as this trend has largely been an American one.
- dchest 4y ago
  It's only 5 cm wider and longer than a Honda Civic. It's higher, of course, since it's a "compact crossover", but not as high as Suzuki Jimny, for example.
  - epgui 4y ago
    I mean, in this context I don't think when the word "big" was used it was referring to the surface area from a bird's eye view. There's many different ways you could think of something as being "big", but in this context I believe either volume, mass or even drag coefficient is what is most relevant to the thread.
    - dchest 4y ago
      Fiat 500L: Cx ~ 0.36, weight ~ 1300 kg RAV4: Cx ~ 0.32, weight ~ 1700 kg Ford F-150: Cx ~ 0.56, weight: 1900-2500 kg It's a small car for Americans, and a medium-sized car for Europeans.
chasebank 4y ago
It's now the size of a 1st and 2nd generation 4Runner.

kodah 4y ago

> What is it with the trend for huge cars I need to move next year because the city I live in (San Jose) is utterly unaffordable. Turns out there's a lot of things movers won't take for you including my vaste plant collection. I remember driving with all of my plants, valuables, and dog to San Jose. I had zero space left, yet now I have a long-term partner so I'll need more space for that move. Second, road trips. I go to a festival every year that's in the boondocks in Michigan. Getting there is no simple task so having a car like the Rav 4 Hybrid that gets excellent mileage and can get me across country~ish terrain is quite nice. > Why do people have to negate EVs energy efficiency story pushing around much more weight than (what to used to be) a normal sized car. The Rav4 Hybrid is... a hybrid. I don't know what you're on about. If you're asking why I didn't get a plugin EV it's because I need to haul stuff and EVs perform terribly at this task. Even if they did exist in a functional capacity I'd be hard pressed to find a place where I can quickly charge it. The housing crisis out here makes it difficult for me to buy a home, road trips would be a lot more inconvenient (I like to go to festivals, so they're long road trips.) Last but not least is cost. The Ford Lightning looked attractive to me, but then I found out as soon as you haul anything the battery basically pits. > Haven't you heard of climate change? Weird question, but yes. I used to be an executive at a water startup. > At least buy an Aptera for chrissak This is it? https://aptera.us/ https://aptera.us/ That would not solve my problem. Looks like they're reservation only. Looks like they're also having trouble sourcing parts, like Toyota: https://aptera.us/community/discussion/realistic-delivery-timeline/ https://aptera.us/community/discussion/realistic-delivery-ti... Personally, this reply wreaks of classism and doomerism. I don't know why this kind of take is so popular on HackerNews but I think y'all really need to think about the image you're selling to the rest of this forum and furthermore the image you're selling to people when you open your mouth and speak so shittily to people. This is especially true when you don't even commit one iota of your brainpiece to understanding my usecase before loudly complaining mixed with misplaced outrage and shaming. Last edit: You have inspired me to start working on a website to combat doomerism and encourage people to seek help.