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First of all, your comments have all felt righteous and sanctimonious to me, so I find it weird that this is the angle you've decided to take with me...to accus
by ralusek 4y ago
First of all, your comments have all felt righteous and sanctimonious to me, so I find it weird that this is the angle you've decided to take with me...to accuse my motive. You are the one who is condescendingly telling me that I need to consider other people's positions as to why control of information might be beneficial, then inferring my motive and trying to get me to consider why I laid out these bullet points that you obviously already knew.
Secondly, I have no idea what information you know. You say that you gained no new information from the bullet points I laid, so what was the point? Well, as I said, not only do I not know what you know, but it's important for the context of the conversation to iterate on examples about which I'm talking about.
> So if we both have the same information, why do you think we reach different conclusions with that information
Given that I'm aware that we have the exact same information, which, for the last time, how could I be? Well in that case, people coming to different conclusions with the same information happens more often than not. It typically comes from people having different frameworks through which they process information.
As to the purpose of my "talking points," which is an extremely condescending way of dismissing a compilation of facts, as if I'm simply parroting a feed of propaganda I've been force fed...as to their purpose: they are examples of what I would consider to be institutional failures. Institutional failures, shows of bad faith, incompetence, and departures from the truth, all of which were done by the very same institutions I've argued should not have the authority to claim command over reality, as proposed by this legislation.
That is my point: not only would I be skeptical of giving competent institutions authority over controlling the way the public exchanges information, but here are the examples of the way those very same institutions have missed the mark throughout the pandemic. If my point isn't clear enough for you to have come to the same conclusion as me, very well, it happens all the time. If you're actually interested in getting to the philosophy of why that is, which I don't actually think you are, and seem to have just fallen back on this psychoanalytical bullshit as a defense mechanism, then I'm perfectly happy to transition away from the topic at hand into that conversation.
- hayst4ck 4y ago> then inferring my motive I was not inferring your motive. I was asking because I don't know the answer. If you felt it was a rhetorical question, I am sorry I worded it poorly. > I have no idea what information you know. I know you don't, which is why I was asking if you thought a person not agreeing with you was likely the result of them not having the same information you have. I wanted to know if you were trying to convince, and if your strategy to be convincing was to "add information they might not already have." I want to know how many times you've been convinced by someone you disagree with sharing their "facts" from their reality. > getting to the philosophy of why that is, which I don't actually think you are I very much am interested in exactly that. That is what the purpose of my line of questioning was. I am trying to understand why you think what you think and say what you say so that I can understand why we can't seem to share the same reality. I want to know where you think our realities diverge and why.