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The authors (which I know) are failing to recognize all of the issues with Gitops. Gitops, TF and Kubernetes are all mostly tools for infra people, who then tr
by mountainriver 4y ago
The authors (which I know) are failing to recognize all of the issues with Gitops.
Gitops, TF and Kubernetes are all mostly tools for infra people, who then try to push them on the rest of the organization they are a part of, usually causing lots of attrition.
Infrastructure people like Go and need to learn from its principles a bit more. Most people in software organizations are just mediocre devs. They don’t geek out on this stuff like you do, and we need to provide better interfaces that they feel comfortable using.
This creates the pattern where devs need to grab an infra person to do anything or pretend they know how to use a complex language/system that they don’t.
Ideas like this harm organizations
- dilyevsky 4y ago> Most people in software organizations are just mediocre devs. > Ideas like this harm organizations Organizations where this is true have already been harmed irreparably
- mountainriver 4y agoThat’s simply not true, lots of organizations provide tremendous value to our economy but aren’t full of rockstar engineers. The norm is that lost tech orgs are just mediocre, we should meet them where they are instead of saying they are screwed
- dilyevsky 4y agoYou dont need rockstars unless you’re giving rock concerts. Good solid devs that ship stuff with good quality is not “mediocre”
- mountainriver 4y agoYes and my org has lots of "solid devs" or whatever you want to call them, that ship useful software, and don't get dev ops. I guess they are dumb