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You’ve guessed incorrectly how much the average citizen cares about standing up to Putin. Most people believe that the consequences of not standing up to him wo

by jibbit 4y ago

You’ve guessed incorrectly how much the average citizen cares about standing up to Putin. Most people believe that the consequences of not standing up to him would be far worse

ShivShankaran 4y ago
Impressive how much propaganda can achieve. The average citizen also wanted to stand up to Saddam, Gaddafi, xi , Al Assad before they take over the world
- DFHippie 4y ago
  > Impressive how much propaganda can achieve. Alanis Morissette missed a lyric.
- MrRiddle 4y ago
  Interesting how people care about Ukraine where Russian actions are arguably very localized to military targets but no one is concerned for over 500k dead in Iraq and their current civil war, all caused by certain NATO countries. Half of the ME is on fire, but no one care. Just a bunch of hypocrites.
  - lostlogin 4y ago
    > Russian actions are arguably very localized to military targets I don’t think anyone believes this. Your comment is whataboutism at a grand level. It is possible to oppose slaughtering people wherever they live.
    - MrRiddle 4y ago
      Yet people didn’t oppose when their own governments were slaughtering people. Countries ruined for decades if not centuries. Whataboutism would be if I justified Russian actions, but I’m not doing that. I’m looking at the western butchers pointing fingers at Russian butchers. Hypocrite.
      - ShivShankaran 4y ago
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- rasz 4y ago
  12 of current EU members lived under Russian occupation for >40 years.
  - fabatka 4y ago
    And still, a considerable amount of people in Hungary (in my opinion 40%+, mostly from the poorer demographics) are strongly opposed to sanctions against Russia if that means the utility costs increase. I bet the memory of the countries on Russia's border function better, but don't underestimate the power of falling living standards paired with wishful thinking (that is, Russia will stop definitely at Ukraine's borders).

by jibbit 4y ago

You’ve guessed incorrectly how much the average citizen cares about standing up to Putin. Most people believe that the consequences of not standing up to him would be far worse

ShivShankaran 4y ago

Impressive how much propaganda can achieve. The average citizen also wanted to stand up to Saddam, Gaddafi, xi , Al Assad before they take over the world

DFHippie 4y ago
> Impressive how much propaganda can achieve. Alanis Morissette missed a lyric.
MrRiddle 4y ago
Interesting how people care about Ukraine where Russian actions are arguably very localized to military targets but no one is concerned for over 500k dead in Iraq and their current civil war, all caused by certain NATO countries. Half of the ME is on fire, but no one care. Just a bunch of hypocrites.
- lostlogin 4y ago
  > Russian actions are arguably very localized to military targets I don’t think anyone believes this. Your comment is whataboutism at a grand level. It is possible to oppose slaughtering people wherever they live.
  - MrRiddle 4y ago
    Yet people didn’t oppose when their own governments were slaughtering people. Countries ruined for decades if not centuries. Whataboutism would be if I justified Russian actions, but I’m not doing that. I’m looking at the western butchers pointing fingers at Russian butchers. Hypocrite.
    - ShivShankaran 4y ago
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rasz 4y ago
12 of current EU members lived under Russian occupation for >40 years.
- fabatka 4y ago
  And still, a considerable amount of people in Hungary (in my opinion 40%+, mostly from the poorer demographics) are strongly opposed to sanctions against Russia if that means the utility costs increase. I bet the memory of the countries on Russia's border function better, but don't underestimate the power of falling living standards paired with wishful thinking (that is, Russia will stop definitely at Ukraine's borders).