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It looks beautiful in the video demo, I just wonder whether integrations will let it down. GitHub integrates with any code coverage, code quality, security sca

It looks beautiful in the video demo, I just wonder whether integrations will let it down. GitHub integrates with any code coverage, code quality, security scanning, or CI solution out there. Slack similarly integrates with any on-call system, time tracking system, code host... Sure Jetbrains Space has provided the API, webhooks and SDK, but most teams want to focus on their application itself? It feels a lot "safer" to go with a service that isn't trying to offer everything and then pick and choose. Slack+GitHub+CI of the month+code quality plugin of the month+anything...

ehnto 4y ago
I think the hodgepodge, piecemeal nature of software development tooling is both a strength and a downfall. Something like JetBrains Space appeals to me at this point in my career, because I really just want to write the software and have everything else handled by default. I don't want to be gluing together services just to get work done. It's also appealing to me as a way to align everyone on the same tools. One of the most effective places I ever worked, had unified tooling across the developers, and was also working exclusively in one software framework. That made them an absolute powerhouse, and able to share knowledge and streamline work in a way you can't do in other environments.
- xeromal 4y ago
  Yeah, API/Service gluing in general gets old. I hate keeping things that have different dev cycles in sync.
- e3bc54b2 4y ago
  Heh. You know who made their fortune providing "everything else handled by default"? Microsoft. Now that enters a fairly divisive terrain, but needless to say, what you expect from single source of tooling generally does not end up being delivered.
  - ehnto 4y ago
    I hear you, and I'm certainly not after Conglomerate Enterprise Tooling. But I think there's room for somewhere between that and makeshift tooling pipelines. Not everyone has to use it, but I'd like to have the option of an integrated software development platform.
    - zoomzoom 4y ago
      Withcoherence.com is one new option (I’m a cofounder). Would love your thoughts if you get a chance to check it out - hn@withcoherence.com…

ehnto 4y ago

I think the hodgepodge, piecemeal nature of software development tooling is both a strength and a downfall. Something like JetBrains Space appeals to me at this point in my career, because I really just want to write the software and have everything else handled by default. I don't want to be gluing together services just to get work done. It's also appealing to me as a way to align everyone on the same tools. One of the most effective places I ever worked, had unified tooling across the developers, and was also working exclusively in one software framework. That made them an absolute powerhouse, and able to share knowledge and streamline work in a way you can't do in other environments.

xeromal 4y ago
Yeah, API/Service gluing in general gets old. I hate keeping things that have different dev cycles in sync.
e3bc54b2 4y ago
Heh. You know who made their fortune providing "everything else handled by default"? Microsoft. Now that enters a fairly divisive terrain, but needless to say, what you expect from single source of tooling generally does not end up being delivered.
- ehnto 4y ago
  I hear you, and I'm certainly not after Conglomerate Enterprise Tooling. But I think there's room for somewhere between that and makeshift tooling pipelines. Not everyone has to use it, but I'd like to have the option of an integrated software development platform.
  - zoomzoom 4y ago
    Withcoherence.com is one new option (I’m a cofounder). Would love your thoughts if you get a chance to check it out - hn@withcoherence.com…