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I choose to ignore user reviews/ratings altogether. On IMDB right now 60% of the ratings (not reviews) are either 1 or 10 [1], and that's completely ridicolous.

I choose to ignore user reviews/ratings altogether. On IMDB right now 60% of the ratings (not reviews) are either 1 or 10 [1], and that's completely ridicolous. I much prefer the critics' scores - and right now they're 84% on RT [2] and 71 on Metacritics [3]. Which are reasonable numbers. [1] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7631058/ratings/?ref_=tt_ov_rt https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7631058/ratings/?ref_=tt_ov_rt [2] https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_lord_of_the_rings_the_rings_of_power/s01 https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_lord_of_the_rings_the_... [3] https://www.metacritic.com/tv/the-lord-of-the-rings-the-rings-of-power/season-1 https://www.metacritic.com/tv/the-lord-of-the-rings-the-ring...

LudwigNagasena 4y ago
How is RT better? 100% of RT scores are either 1 or 10.
- Rant423 4y ago
  That's not how it works. Yes, RT scores are binary, but that's not the same as saying that "rotten" means 1/10 and "fresh" means 10/10.
  - LudwigNagasena 4y ago
    Yeah, that’s not the same. That sounds worse to me, so the question stands, how is it better?
    - Rant423 4y ago
      Please note that I'm talking about critics' ratings: RT has them and IMDB doesn't. So it's better for me, as I value known critics more than random people.
vagrantJin 4y ago
Critics are the experts. A fanatic, while crazy, has skin in the game. Their time and money. I'll take a fanatics POV over an experts everyday of the week and Sundays too.
- Rant423 4y ago
  In an ideal world, where everyone votes sincerely (and using an agreed-on scale), sure. But that's not the real world: here people are declaring a whole season of a show either a 10 or 1, after _maybe_ seeing 25% of it. In other words, this data is too noisy and so not trustworthy.
  - vagrantJin 4y ago
    I dont know what the 'ideal world' talk is about, what I do know is that the audience votes with something valuable and real, not something vague and nebulous like expertise. Fans have nothing to gain, not prestige, not fame, not even a fattening bank account. All they ask for is to be entertained. Peter Jackson and hos team may be to blame for leaving such a high bar to clear, but censorship will never be the answer.
    - Rant423 4y ago
      I'm not justifying censorship. I am simply ignoring users ratings as I deem them unhelpful.
    - notpachet 4y ago
      > Fans have nothing to gain They have something else to gain: the validation of their worldview.
- rdtwo 4y ago
  Kind of like video game reviewers are experts lol. The problem with the do called experts is that often they have a strong financial incentive to give high marks to expensive ips. So if Amazon spent 500m for the show buying some critics for 5m total seems trivial
rdedev 4y ago
I don't completely disregard the user reviews. It helps me get a feel of the type of movie or series when comparing it to critics review. The Gray Man has low critics review but high user reviews on rotten tomatoes. So i expected it to be something i can enjoy without too much of an investment. And it did. Helped me get through my 14 hr flight
- Rant423 4y ago
  What do you expect when this ratio is reversed (high critics review but low user reviews)?
  - rdedev 4y ago
    The lighthouse is probably a good example of that. Critics have 90% but audience is only 70ish. There were so many themes within the movie that I had to look up online to understand it's significance. So overall not my cup of tea. Usialiif a movie has above 80% on both user and critics reviews i will watch it

LudwigNagasena 4y ago

How is RT better? 100% of RT scores are either 1 or 10.

Rant423 4y ago
That's not how it works. Yes, RT scores are binary, but that's not the same as saying that "rotten" means 1/10 and "fresh" means 10/10.
- LudwigNagasena 4y ago
  Yeah, that’s not the same. That sounds worse to me, so the question stands, how is it better?
  - Rant423 4y ago
    Please note that I'm talking about critics' ratings: RT has them and IMDB doesn't. So it's better for me, as I value known critics more than random people.

vagrantJin 4y ago

Critics are the experts. A fanatic, while crazy, has skin in the game. Their time and money. I'll take a fanatics POV over an experts everyday of the week and Sundays too.

Rant423 4y ago
In an ideal world, where everyone votes sincerely (and using an agreed-on scale), sure. But that's not the real world: here people are declaring a whole season of a show either a 10 or 1, after _maybe_ seeing 25% of it. In other words, this data is too noisy and so not trustworthy.
- vagrantJin 4y ago
  I dont know what the 'ideal world' talk is about, what I do know is that the audience votes with something valuable and real, not something vague and nebulous like expertise. Fans have nothing to gain, not prestige, not fame, not even a fattening bank account. All they ask for is to be entertained. Peter Jackson and hos team may be to blame for leaving such a high bar to clear, but censorship will never be the answer.
  - Rant423 4y ago
    I'm not justifying censorship. I am simply ignoring users ratings as I deem them unhelpful.
  - notpachet 4y ago
    > Fans have nothing to gain They have something else to gain: the validation of their worldview.
rdtwo 4y ago
Kind of like video game reviewers are experts lol. The problem with the do called experts is that often they have a strong financial incentive to give high marks to expensive ips. So if Amazon spent 500m for the show buying some critics for 5m total seems trivial

rdedev 4y ago

I don't completely disregard the user reviews. It helps me get a feel of the type of movie or series when comparing it to critics review. The Gray Man has low critics review but high user reviews on rotten tomatoes. So i expected it to be something i can enjoy without too much of an investment. And it did. Helped me get through my 14 hr flight

Rant423 4y ago
What do you expect when this ratio is reversed (high critics review but low user reviews)?
- rdedev 4y ago
  The lighthouse is probably a good example of that. Critics have 90% but audience is only 70ish. There were so many themes within the movie that I had to look up online to understand it's significance. So overall not my cup of tea. Usialiif a movie has above 80% on both user and critics reviews i will watch it