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Name a „woke“ movie with likable characters. One. Its a contradiction in terms - you cannot be a spiritual scold or schoolmarm and mold a set of likable charac

Name a „woke“ movie with likable characters. One. Its a contradiction in terms - you cannot be a spiritual scold or schoolmarm and mold a set of likable characters from this essence.

Ygg2 4y ago
suction 4y ago
lallysingh 4y ago
Black Panther had a few good ones, like BP's sister Shuri.
- aikinai 4y ago
  Unfortunately she went on to become that exact sort of insufferable character in her followup appearances.
pubby 4y ago
To kill a mockingbird
- thrown_22 4y ago
  How dare you question a woman's lived experience. Not to mention the hate Harper Lee got for Go Set a Watchman showing what happened to the characters 20 years later.
spywaregorilla 4y ago
Woke seems to purposefully imply a bungled attempt at progressive characters so it's kind of tautological. But if we just mean progressive, then Zootopia.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
  Interesting. I did not perceive Zootopia as progressive ( tbh, I don't remember much of it except for the DMV skit ). Could you elaborate on that interpretation?
  - spywaregorilla 4y ago
    The entire plot of the movie is about predator animals going savage and the rabbit cop and fox conman working together to understand why. Act 1 is rabbit cop overcoming assumptions that she cannot be a cop because she is a rabbit. Act 2 is they catch a savage predator and then, when prompted on the news, rabbit cop suggests it may be due to predators having savage behaviors "in their genetics" Act 3 is realizing that this was an unwarranted bias, working together, and finding the real culprit. It's a great progressive film because one of the big racial conflict moments is the rabbit cop, a kind and well intentioned protagonist, grappling with her own subconscious biases.
    - LawTalkingGuy 4y ago
      I think it was a warranted bias. Obviously in the show's past there was a time when predators predated, or they wouldn't have brought it up. That makes it more noble. The Rabbit is not just getting over a silly uninformed prejudice, but is willing to intellectually set aside the ongoing murder of her ancestors to fully analyze a case. "Sure, they are naturally violent and we all know that, but is that enough to account for ..." She's a real investigator who refuses to be distracted.
      - spywaregorilla 4y ago
        The movie was very clear that predators in this universe were not naturally violent. It's at best on par with prejudice towards people from a country that previously invaded your own.
  - treeman79 4y ago
    It’s all about diversity and stereotypes. Shows that one can’t trust stereotypes about certain types of people. While amusingly also showing that stereotypes are mostly accurate. It has a a couple of strong female leads fighting the system and taking down the man.
afavour 4y ago
Wait we’ve gone from the show having diversity hiring to the entire thing being “woke” now? It’s so hard to keep up with the ginned up outrage.
- OscarCunningham 4y ago
  The interesting thing is that the plot is almost entirely about noble elites. The casting is the only woke thing about it.
yawn 4y ago
Define „woke“
- chestervonwinch 4y ago
  The parent is using the term pejoratively. In this context, I would describe it as calling someone a poseur of liberal/progressive issues, i.e., someone who cares more about the appearance of supporting progressive issues than actually supporting those underlying issues themselves. It means calling someone dishonest about their outward intent, basically. Personally, I'd prefer that people would just say what they mean rather than relying on slang entangled in the modern culture wars.
  - Ygg2 4y ago
    While used pejoratively, there are a few characteristics you can glean: - Over-representations or inappropriate representations of minorities - Main lead is usually some minority (e.g., woman, black, trans, etc.) - Said minority characters are usually high on the power scale and rarely encounter any challenges, often at the detriment to the story - Said minority usually espouse some overly blunt progressive message. It's a mix between progressive propaganda and a fan-fic.
manuelabeledo 4y ago
“Woke” or accused of being so? There are plenty of movies out there that have been criticised for being too ”liberal leaning”. “Woke” is a rather recent term. Django unchained and Black Panther are two relatively recent movies accused of being “woke”. Both were resounding successes.
- joemazerino 4y ago
  Neither of those movies are considered Woke, really.
  - manuelabeledo 4y ago
    Memories are short. Both were criticised for being woke, especially Black Panther, which I distinctively remember being both lauded and lambasted for the same reason. I sense though that most people who parrot the "go woke go broke" narrative, focus only on those that have done badly in the box office.

Name a „woke“ movie with likable characters. One. Its a contradiction in terms - you cannot be a spiritual scold or schoolmarm and mold a set of likable characters from this essence.

Ygg2 4y ago

suction 4y ago

lallysingh 4y ago

Black Panther had a few good ones, like BP's sister Shuri.

aikinai 4y ago
Unfortunately she went on to become that exact sort of insufferable character in her followup appearances.

pubby 4y ago

To kill a mockingbird

thrown_22 4y ago
How dare you question a woman's lived experience. Not to mention the hate Harper Lee got for Go Set a Watchman showing what happened to the characters 20 years later.

spywaregorilla 4y ago

Woke seems to purposefully imply a bungled attempt at progressive characters so it's kind of tautological. But if we just mean progressive, then Zootopia.

A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
Interesting. I did not perceive Zootopia as progressive ( tbh, I don't remember much of it except for the DMV skit ). Could you elaborate on that interpretation?
- spywaregorilla 4y ago
  The entire plot of the movie is about predator animals going savage and the rabbit cop and fox conman working together to understand why. Act 1 is rabbit cop overcoming assumptions that she cannot be a cop because she is a rabbit. Act 2 is they catch a savage predator and then, when prompted on the news, rabbit cop suggests it may be due to predators having savage behaviors "in their genetics" Act 3 is realizing that this was an unwarranted bias, working together, and finding the real culprit. It's a great progressive film because one of the big racial conflict moments is the rabbit cop, a kind and well intentioned protagonist, grappling with her own subconscious biases.
  - LawTalkingGuy 4y ago
    I think it was a warranted bias. Obviously in the show's past there was a time when predators predated, or they wouldn't have brought it up. That makes it more noble. The Rabbit is not just getting over a silly uninformed prejudice, but is willing to intellectually set aside the ongoing murder of her ancestors to fully analyze a case. "Sure, they are naturally violent and we all know that, but is that enough to account for ..." She's a real investigator who refuses to be distracted.
    - spywaregorilla 4y ago
      The movie was very clear that predators in this universe were not naturally violent. It's at best on par with prejudice towards people from a country that previously invaded your own.
- treeman79 4y ago
  It’s all about diversity and stereotypes. Shows that one can’t trust stereotypes about certain types of people. While amusingly also showing that stereotypes are mostly accurate. It has a a couple of strong female leads fighting the system and taking down the man.

afavour 4y ago

Wait we’ve gone from the show having diversity hiring to the entire thing being “woke” now? It’s so hard to keep up with the ginned up outrage.

OscarCunningham 4y ago
The interesting thing is that the plot is almost entirely about noble elites. The casting is the only woke thing about it.

yawn 4y ago

Define „woke“

chestervonwinch 4y ago
The parent is using the term pejoratively. In this context, I would describe it as calling someone a poseur of liberal/progressive issues, i.e., someone who cares more about the appearance of supporting progressive issues than actually supporting those underlying issues themselves. It means calling someone dishonest about their outward intent, basically. Personally, I'd prefer that people would just say what they mean rather than relying on slang entangled in the modern culture wars.
- Ygg2 4y ago
  While used pejoratively, there are a few characteristics you can glean: - Over-representations or inappropriate representations of minorities - Main lead is usually some minority (e.g., woman, black, trans, etc.) - Said minority characters are usually high on the power scale and rarely encounter any challenges, often at the detriment to the story - Said minority usually espouse some overly blunt progressive message. It's a mix between progressive propaganda and a fan-fic.

manuelabeledo 4y ago

“Woke” or accused of being so? There are plenty of movies out there that have been criticised for being too ”liberal leaning”. “Woke” is a rather recent term. Django unchained and Black Panther are two relatively recent movies accused of being “woke”. Both were resounding successes.

joemazerino 4y ago
Neither of those movies are considered Woke, really.
- manuelabeledo 4y ago
  Memories are short. Both were criticised for being woke, especially Black Panther, which I distinctively remember being both lauded and lambasted for the same reason. I sense though that most people who parrot the "go woke go broke" narrative, focus only on those that have done badly in the box office.