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Agreed, I don't think it's the first, at least Windows 1.0 (1985) was tiling windows before that

by boudin 4y ago

adrian_b 4y ago
The BRIEF text editor was also launched in 1985, and it incorporated a tiling windows manager (implemented in the MS-DOS text video mode, and using the MS-DOS graphic characters for window decorations, menus etc.). That was the first tiling windows manager that I have used, and it worked much better than many of the much more recent tiling windows managers. I believe that the BRIEF text editor for programmers was used much more widely than Windows 1.0, which was mostly a toy.
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- boudin 4y ago
  Oh yeah, i'm not saying that Windows 1.0 was the first, I was just giving it as an example that the title was wrong.
- teddyh 4y ago
  The video mentions that the editor running in one of the windows is Emacs. Since the video is from 1988, this would be Emacs about version 18.50¹, which did, IIRC, have split-window functionality. So they had, in the video, another, running, (albeit text-only) implementation of tiling windows. 1. https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/history.html https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/history.html
  - adrian_b 4y ago
    I believe that the BRIEF text editor was strongly inspired by EMACS (by the original EMACS, because the GNU Emacs was launched almost simultaneously with BRIEF). Like from EMACS, you could do pretty much anything from inside the editor and BRIEF also had a very powerful LISP-like macro language, from which you could modify the behavior of any key press and so on. So there is no wonder if its window system was also inspired by EMACS (assuming that the original EMACS already had tiling windows, which I do not know).
    - teddyh 4y ago
      The original EMACS did not use LISP. https://emacs.brause.cc/timeline.html https://emacs.brause.cc/timeline.html
    - lispm 4y ago
      The MIT Lisp Machine had a version of Emacs written in Lisp called ZWEI and later called Zmacs. The Lisp Machine window system had tiling features in its window manager and also a split screen feature in ZWEI. The 1980 sources of the Lisp operating system had that, but it might have been developed earlier.
CharlesW 4y ago
And Xerox Star (1981) and CEDAR (1982) before that. (I have a vague memory of AppleWorks supporting tiled windows too, although application-level implementations probably don't count.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager
pipeline_peak 4y ago
And the desc immediately admits it isn’t. I feel weird calling something this niche and obscure clickbait, but it is.

Agreed, I don't think it's the first, at least Windows 1.0 (1985) was tiling windows before that

by boudin 4y ago

Agreed, I don't think it's the first, at least Windows 1.0 (1985) was tiling windows before that

The BRIEF text editor was also launched in 1985, and it incorporated a tiling windows manager (implemented in the MS-DOS text video mode, and using the MS-DOS graphic characters for window decorations, menus etc.). That was the first tiling windows manager that I have used, and it worked much better than many of the much more recent tiling windows managers. I believe that the BRIEF text editor for programmers was used much more widely than Windows 1.0, which was mostly a toy.

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boudin 4y ago
Oh yeah, i'm not saying that Windows 1.0 was the first, I was just giving it as an example that the title was wrong.
teddyh 4y ago
The video mentions that the editor running in one of the windows is Emacs. Since the video is from 1988, this would be Emacs about version 18.50¹, which did, IIRC, have split-window functionality. So they had, in the video, another, running, (albeit text-only) implementation of tiling windows. 1. https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/history.html https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/history.html
- adrian_b 4y ago
  I believe that the BRIEF text editor was strongly inspired by EMACS (by the original EMACS, because the GNU Emacs was launched almost simultaneously with BRIEF). Like from EMACS, you could do pretty much anything from inside the editor and BRIEF also had a very powerful LISP-like macro language, from which you could modify the behavior of any key press and so on. So there is no wonder if its window system was also inspired by EMACS (assuming that the original EMACS already had tiling windows, which I do not know).
  - teddyh 4y ago
    The original EMACS did not use LISP. https://emacs.brause.cc/timeline.html https://emacs.brause.cc/timeline.html
  - lispm 4y ago
    The MIT Lisp Machine had a version of Emacs written in Lisp called ZWEI and later called Zmacs. The Lisp Machine window system had tiling features in its window manager and also a split screen feature in ZWEI. The 1980 sources of the Lisp operating system had that, but it might have been developed earlier.

CharlesW 4y ago

And Xerox Star (1981) and CEDAR (1982) before that. (I have a vague memory of AppleWorks supporting tiled windows too, although application-level implementations probably don't count.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager

pipeline_peak 4y ago

And the desc immediately admits it isn’t. I feel weird calling something this niche and obscure clickbait, but it is.