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2G has mobile data (via GPRS/EDGE) and the original iPhone absolutely supported it. You could browse the web on cheap phones much earlier, but the rendering en

2G has mobile data (via GPRS/EDGE) and the original iPhone absolutely supported it. You could browse the web on cheap phones much earlier, but the rendering engines were limited (some mobile subset of HTML?). A big selling point of the iPhone was that it included a full browser.

seba_dos1 4y ago
I used to browse the Web with Opera Mini, which was a J2ME midlet, on feature phones such as Motorola C651 and Nokia 6230i :) It worked by rendering the full blown site server-side and sending it back in a simplified format for the phone to display, which worked much better than bundled browsers which weren't very useful for much more than WML or XHTML-MP. I have also chatted with people via XMPP extensively thanks to Bombus (remember when Google Talk was a fine, open and federated XMPP implementation and pretty much everyone was reachable there? Those were the times...). Smartphones such as Symbian ones already had more usable native browsers though.
Gordonjcp 4y ago
Yes, but it was 64kbps at most, when everywhere had 8Mbps 3G coverage.
- ZGDUwpqEWpUZ 4y ago
  EDGE goes up to 384Kbps, and everywhere most certainly did not have 8Mbps 3G coverage in 2007. https://www.wired.com/2008/08/global-iphone-3/ https://www.wired.com/2008/08/global-iphone-3/
  - Gordonjcp 4y ago
    Even in the remotest corners of Europe we had absolutely romping 3G coverage.
  - seba_dos1 4y ago
    3G sure was pretty common in 2007. US was always behind when it comes to cellular networks.
    - ZGDUwpqEWpUZ 4y ago
      > European T-Mobile users reported the fastest 3G Download Speeds: 1,822 Kbps on average. Getting 8Mb was rare, hence the link. The other poster is taking the theoretical maximum for 3G, and understating 2G, rather than just admitting that his original statement - that the first iPhone didn't have mobile data at all - was just wrong.
      - seba_dos1 4y ago
        Yeah, but effective 2Mbps was a pretty decent connection speed in 2007, while theoretical maximum of 384Kbps was already underwhelming. Source: I used 2G data around that time extensively :)

seba_dos1 4y ago

I used to browse the Web with Opera Mini, which was a J2ME midlet, on feature phones such as Motorola C651 and Nokia 6230i :) It worked by rendering the full blown site server-side and sending it back in a simplified format for the phone to display, which worked much better than bundled browsers which weren't very useful for much more than WML or XHTML-MP. I have also chatted with people via XMPP extensively thanks to Bombus (remember when Google Talk was a fine, open and federated XMPP implementation and pretty much everyone was reachable there? Those were the times...). Smartphones such as Symbian ones already had more usable native browsers though.

Gordonjcp 4y ago

Yes, but it was 64kbps at most, when everywhere had 8Mbps 3G coverage.

ZGDUwpqEWpUZ 4y ago
EDGE goes up to 384Kbps, and everywhere most certainly did not have 8Mbps 3G coverage in 2007. https://www.wired.com/2008/08/global-iphone-3/ https://www.wired.com/2008/08/global-iphone-3/
- Gordonjcp 4y ago
  Even in the remotest corners of Europe we had absolutely romping 3G coverage.
- seba_dos1 4y ago
  3G sure was pretty common in 2007. US was always behind when it comes to cellular networks.
  - ZGDUwpqEWpUZ 4y ago
    > European T-Mobile users reported the fastest 3G Download Speeds: 1,822 Kbps on average. Getting 8Mb was rare, hence the link. The other poster is taking the theoretical maximum for 3G, and understating 2G, rather than just admitting that his original statement - that the first iPhone didn't have mobile data at all - was just wrong.
    - seba_dos1 4y ago
      Yeah, but effective 2Mbps was a pretty decent connection speed in 2007, while theoretical maximum of 384Kbps was already underwhelming. Source: I used 2G data around that time extensively :)