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If we were to give up all the things that someone's figurative family members couldn't handle, we'd be literally living in the dark ages.

• actually_a_dog 4y ago
  If we don't come up with sustainable ways for those metaphorical family members to consume, we'll end up there anyway.
  • fezfight 4y ago
    You're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Because your mother can't easily update her phone, you'd have it so no one can? No, that's just silly.
    • actually_a_dog 4y ago
      And you're strawmanning. That's not what I said at all. Please do not put words in my mouth. I said that this action by the EU will not result in more sustainable consumption, which seems to be the reason behind it. I wouldn't oppose forcing phones to be more open in order to increase their lifespan, but I also wouldn't expect that to increase sustainability.
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      • fezfight 4y ago
        Not strawmanning, just misunderstood! I think it would help, but it would require a big shift in the way people think about phones. They'd need to be thought of as computers right (which they are), so people would expect to be able to update them like they do a regular computer. Then even lay people could benefit by getting secure hand me downs.