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The reason I noticed it is that the two cities, though very close geographically, have an intense and not entirely friendly rivalry that goes back hundreds of y

The reason I noticed it is that the two cities, though very close geographically, have an intense and not entirely friendly rivalry that goes back hundreds of years and continues to this day. See for example the History section of [0]. Although it's understandable that someone not familiar with the area could confuse the two places, friends from Sunderland tell that they are pretty offended when they are mistaken for Geordies. I imagine it's like accusing Bart Simpson and his friends of being from Shelbyville. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyne%E2%80%93Wear_derby https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyne%E2%80%93Wear_derby EDIT: Please forgive me for bringing this up. I appreciate it's not particularly relevant to moomin's comment about the culture of the Nissan plant, which I agree with aside from my nitpicks, nor to the original video.

dontlaugh 4y ago
I don’t know that it’s universal. At least some people I know from Sunderland call themselves Geordies.
foobarian 4y ago
Having seen your edit: just wanted to chime in and thank you for the comment - I learned something I never would have otherwise.
noisy_boy 4y ago
I appreciated the comment. This kind of tangential but interesting tidbit is one of the more attractive aspects of HN to me.
eru 4y ago
Eh, close places often have intense rivalries over minor difference (that feel big to them), but to the outsider they look pretty much the same. Have a look at Greek and Turkey for example. Even their cuisine is nearly identical. Or look at the adherents of the major parties in many countries around the world. To avoid an American example: if you put a member of the British Tories or Labour into Japan, they will pretty much be seen as just some Brits.
- vishnugupta 4y ago
  I recently learned that there’s a name for this phenomenon, “ schismogenesis”. It seems immediate neighbors adopt opposite stance just to be different.

dontlaugh 4y ago

I don’t know that it’s universal. At least some people I know from Sunderland call themselves Geordies.

foobarian 4y ago

Having seen your edit: just wanted to chime in and thank you for the comment - I learned something I never would have otherwise.

noisy_boy 4y ago

I appreciated the comment. This kind of tangential but interesting tidbit is one of the more attractive aspects of HN to me.

eru 4y ago

Eh, close places often have intense rivalries over minor difference (that feel big to them), but to the outsider they look pretty much the same. Have a look at Greek and Turkey for example. Even their cuisine is nearly identical. Or look at the adherents of the major parties in many countries around the world. To avoid an American example: if you put a member of the British Tories or Labour into Japan, they will pretty much be seen as just some Brits.

vishnugupta 4y ago
I recently learned that there’s a name for this phenomenon, “ schismogenesis”. It seems immediate neighbors adopt opposite stance just to be different.