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I clicked back through the years available for my city on weatherspark.com Back in the 90s, never above 90-91 in Sept. In the last 10 years we started seeing

I clicked back through the years available for my city on weatherspark.com Back in the 90s, never above 90-91 in Sept. In the last 10 years we started seeing 94-95 in Sept. Coincidentally air travel has doubled in that time period; from 2.25 billion people flying in 2010 to 4.56 billion in 2019. Of course that cratered since 2020. Thanks AirBnB and other apps that make burning fossil fuels a thoughtless, trivial thing?

humanistbot 4y ago
> Thanks AirBnB and other apps that make burning fossil fuels a thoughtless, trivial thing? Your outrage is misdirected to something you probably personally relate to. Leisure travel is a minuscule component of the carbon in the atmosphere. Leisure travel is a fly hitching a ride on the beast that is global logistics, and AirBnb making leisure travel slightly cheaper and easier is a drop in the bucket for all leisure travel in general.
- butUhmErm 4y ago
  “Outrage”. Your qualification of my emotions is way off. 2.4% when talking tonnes may be a small percent relative to the “big picture” but it’s not 0 tonnes, it has an impact, and production of machines to produce planes, production of more planes to keep up with rising demand are not included in that 2.4%. Leisure travel across the planet is not exactly a requirement for the survival of the species. It’s still pushing our choices onto future humans. Since statistics are what matters to you; you’re one of seven billion; your perspective is not that important. Probably best to avoid overly reductive rhetoric, the basis of which (statistical relevance) can be easily used against you. More co2 is released in service of the airline industry than just planes flying. The world is not made of singular statistical objects in a vacuum.
andirk 4y ago
I doubt people going on a vacation a couple times per year is even a line item in the list of causes of burning fossil fuels. However, at the beginning of the pandemic, with fewer cargo vessels and even fewer personal vehicles burning fuel, we saw a measureable improvement to the environment within days.
- butUhmErm 4y ago
  The planes in the air are not the only release of co2 required to provide air travel. There’s an industrial pipeline of machines to mine materials and machines to produce planes, all the travel to and from airports. The drink service carts don’t just fall from the sky or grow on trees, they too have an entire industrial pipeline required for their production. Making travel easier puts more strain on planes necessitating more parts and net new planes sooner. The world is a miasma of statistics making up “the big picture”.

humanistbot 4y ago

> Thanks AirBnB and other apps that make burning fossil fuels a thoughtless, trivial thing? Your outrage is misdirected to something you probably personally relate to. Leisure travel is a minuscule component of the carbon in the atmosphere. Leisure travel is a fly hitching a ride on the beast that is global logistics, and AirBnb making leisure travel slightly cheaper and easier is a drop in the bucket for all leisure travel in general.

butUhmErm 4y ago
“Outrage”. Your qualification of my emotions is way off. 2.4% when talking tonnes may be a small percent relative to the “big picture” but it’s not 0 tonnes, it has an impact, and production of machines to produce planes, production of more planes to keep up with rising demand are not included in that 2.4%. Leisure travel across the planet is not exactly a requirement for the survival of the species. It’s still pushing our choices onto future humans. Since statistics are what matters to you; you’re one of seven billion; your perspective is not that important. Probably best to avoid overly reductive rhetoric, the basis of which (statistical relevance) can be easily used against you. More co2 is released in service of the airline industry than just planes flying. The world is not made of singular statistical objects in a vacuum.

andirk 4y ago

I doubt people going on a vacation a couple times per year is even a line item in the list of causes of burning fossil fuels. However, at the beginning of the pandemic, with fewer cargo vessels and even fewer personal vehicles burning fuel, we saw a measureable improvement to the environment within days.

butUhmErm 4y ago
The planes in the air are not the only release of co2 required to provide air travel. There’s an industrial pipeline of machines to mine materials and machines to produce planes, all the travel to and from airports. The drink service carts don’t just fall from the sky or grow on trees, they too have an entire industrial pipeline required for their production. Making travel easier puts more strain on planes necessitating more parts and net new planes sooner. The world is a miasma of statistics making up “the big picture”.