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Its easier to get opioids than it is to buy weed in some States. I wonder why?

by joemazerino 4y ago

ceejayoz 4y ago
Because they're legal?
- oblak 4y ago
  Wasn't that joemazerino's point?
base698 4y ago
Because pharma is 70% of the ad spend on Television news and one of the top lobbying industries?
- spookthesunset 4y ago
  Sure but it isn’t the generics doing any ad spend. Unless there is some hip new opioid I’m not aware of (street fentanyl?) all the opioids are generic at this point. “Bob & Dave’s Pill Company” sure as heck isn’t pimping their generic hydrocodone on TV nor are they taking doctors out to golf.
  - ceejayoz 4y ago
    Don't worry, they know how to fight that scenario. Drug companies have gotten really good at fighting/delaying/squashing generics. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2013/04/17/177602393/why-fdas-rejection-generic-oxycontin-may-have-side-effects https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2013/04/17/1776023... > In 2010, Purdue Pharma LP replaced the original OxyContin with an abuse-resistant form, in an effort to reduce deaths and overdoses caused by the powerful pain medication, which was licensed in 1995. > The new version of OxyContin includes an ingredient, a polymer, that makes it harder to crush and snort or inject to get a quick, heroin-like high. When the new version was introduced, Purdue pulled the original OxyContin off the market. The patent on the new version runs until 2025. > On Tuesday, the FDA said that it won't approve generic versions of the original formulation of OxyContin, a long-acting narcotic pain medication, which went off patent that day.
bobthepanda 4y ago
Weed is a plant that can rot. This makes its transport more finicky, and more bulky. Pills are much easier to transport, particularly fentanyl with its small dosing amount. And one of the most dangerous things is meth, since recently it’s now being developed from shelf-stable chemicals. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/11/the-new-meth/620174/ https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/11/the-new...
- barbazoo 4y ago
  THC/CBD containing edibles, oils and capsules come to mind.
  - bobthepanda 4y ago
    The problem is that in an illicit market, there isn‘t QA to make sure what you‘re getting is of consistent quality, which is why I don‘t like getting edibles in such places. I mean, there are test kits, I just don‘t want to bother.
- tingol 4y ago
  That's silly. Weed is exactly that, a WEED, it grows freaking everywhere why the need for transport?
  - ceejayoz 4y ago
    Salad grows pretty much everywhere, but we still transport most of it from Mexico or California, with a pretty hefty set of infrastructure components from farms to hordes of pickers to refridgerated trains to grocery stores. (It's also not a weed, really, just like it's not a pot.)
  - bobthepanda 4y ago
    There are definitely economies of scale when it comes to farming and weed is no exception. That, and taking advantage of cheaper labor costs elsewhere (like Mexico) That, and it may be easier to grow in a laxer jurisdiction and transport it to a stricter one, than just trying to grow it in a strict one.
tsol 4y ago
How would you get opioids if you actually wanted to? Weed you can ask around on the street and eventually you'll find someone. Are you gonna break your arm to get a script? Doctors don't prescribe that so liberally anymore, they haven't for years. I don't think it's accurate that it's easier to get opiates than Marijuana, except in really certain cases like after you undergo a procedure

Its easier to get opioids than it is to buy weed in some States. I wonder why?

ceejayoz 4y ago

Because they're legal?

oblak 4y ago
Wasn't that joemazerino's point?

base698 4y ago

Because pharma is 70% of the ad spend on Television news and one of the top lobbying industries?

spookthesunset 4y ago
Sure but it isn’t the generics doing any ad spend. Unless there is some hip new opioid I’m not aware of (street fentanyl?) all the opioids are generic at this point. “Bob & Dave’s Pill Company” sure as heck isn’t pimping their generic hydrocodone on TV nor are they taking doctors out to golf.
- ceejayoz 4y ago
  Don't worry, they know how to fight that scenario. Drug companies have gotten really good at fighting/delaying/squashing generics. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2013/04/17/177602393/why-fdas-rejection-generic-oxycontin-may-have-side-effects https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2013/04/17/1776023... > In 2010, Purdue Pharma LP replaced the original OxyContin with an abuse-resistant form, in an effort to reduce deaths and overdoses caused by the powerful pain medication, which was licensed in 1995. > The new version of OxyContin includes an ingredient, a polymer, that makes it harder to crush and snort or inject to get a quick, heroin-like high. When the new version was introduced, Purdue pulled the original OxyContin off the market. The patent on the new version runs until 2025. > On Tuesday, the FDA said that it won't approve generic versions of the original formulation of OxyContin, a long-acting narcotic pain medication, which went off patent that day.

bobthepanda 4y ago

Weed is a plant that can rot. This makes its transport more finicky, and more bulky. Pills are much easier to transport, particularly fentanyl with its small dosing amount. And one of the most dangerous things is meth, since recently it’s now being developed from shelf-stable chemicals. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/11/the-new-meth/620174/ https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/11/the-new...

barbazoo 4y ago
THC/CBD containing edibles, oils and capsules come to mind.
- bobthepanda 4y ago
  The problem is that in an illicit market, there isn‘t QA to make sure what you‘re getting is of consistent quality, which is why I don‘t like getting edibles in such places. I mean, there are test kits, I just don‘t want to bother.
tingol 4y ago
That's silly. Weed is exactly that, a WEED, it grows freaking everywhere why the need for transport?
- ceejayoz 4y ago
  Salad grows pretty much everywhere, but we still transport most of it from Mexico or California, with a pretty hefty set of infrastructure components from farms to hordes of pickers to refridgerated trains to grocery stores. (It's also not a weed, really, just like it's not a pot.)
- bobthepanda 4y ago
  There are definitely economies of scale when it comes to farming and weed is no exception. That, and taking advantage of cheaper labor costs elsewhere (like Mexico) That, and it may be easier to grow in a laxer jurisdiction and transport it to a stricter one, than just trying to grow it in a strict one.

tsol 4y ago

How would you get opioids if you actually wanted to? Weed you can ask around on the street and eventually you'll find someone. Are you gonna break your arm to get a script? Doctors don't prescribe that so liberally anymore, they haven't for years. I don't think it's accurate that it's easier to get opiates than Marijuana, except in really certain cases like after you undergo a procedure