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There is a simple way to avoid this. You do not have to carry a cell phone/tracker at all times. Stop taking your tracker transmitter with you everywhere. Or si

There is a simple way to avoid this. You do not have to carry a cell phone/tracker at all times. Stop taking your tracker transmitter with you everywhere. Or simply turn it off/remove the battery. I know a lot of people will say that cell phones are too useful to turn them off. And that's fine and reasonable. Just be aware they literally are tracking devices and it is your choice. There will be no legislative solution for this. The government spying ratchet only goes one way.

kornhole 4y ago
Most phones do not actually turn off. You need to put them in a faraday sleeve. The other options more difficult for many is to use phones with alternative OS such as Graphene, Calyx, Lineage, Linux.. with only safe FOSS apps installed. SIM card mitigations are to switch number to VOIP and only occasionally use burner SIM's or https://invisv.com/pgpp/ https://invisv.com/pgpp/.
- bogomipz 4y ago
  >"Most phones do not actually turn off." Can you elaborate? It is possible to power cycle a phone which implies that it's capable of powering off. Are you saying a powered-off phone still communicates with the network?
  - kornhole 4y ago
    In a word, yes. Some relatively rare phones such as Pinephone and Librem have actual power switches, and maybe some others actually go off. The vast majority of consumer phones appear off but are still calling home to the mother ship. Many diagnostic test have been done and published to prove this. If you really need it, I could probably go find them for you.
    - bogomipz 4y ago
      Thanks. I'm guessing this is when happened when hardware vendors stopped making phones with removable batteries then? I would be really interested in any links you might have yes. I did a cursory search but came up with little more than a stackexchange question.
      - kornhole 4y ago
        Both Ithings and Google devices have a find my phone feature that works even when the phone is off. That is something you can test yourself if you have one. Obviously for this to work, the phone is sending its location even when it is supposedly off. It seems that the company in this reporting is not getting data from Goopple yet, but those who are really concerned about not being followed are careful with this and use different operating systems. https://www.xda-developers.com/iphone-findable-turned-off/ https://www.xda-developers.com/iphone-findable-turned-off/
GekkePrutser 4y ago
The latest iphones even can be tracked while off through apples find my network (Bluetooth based). It can be switched off. But it poses some interesting questions.

kornhole 4y ago

Most phones do not actually turn off. You need to put them in a faraday sleeve. The other options more difficult for many is to use phones with alternative OS such as Graphene, Calyx, Lineage, Linux.. with only safe FOSS apps installed. SIM card mitigations are to switch number to VOIP and only occasionally use burner SIM's or https://invisv.com/pgpp/ https://invisv.com/pgpp/.

bogomipz 4y ago
>"Most phones do not actually turn off." Can you elaborate? It is possible to power cycle a phone which implies that it's capable of powering off. Are you saying a powered-off phone still communicates with the network?
- kornhole 4y ago
  In a word, yes. Some relatively rare phones such as Pinephone and Librem have actual power switches, and maybe some others actually go off. The vast majority of consumer phones appear off but are still calling home to the mother ship. Many diagnostic test have been done and published to prove this. If you really need it, I could probably go find them for you.
  - bogomipz 4y ago
    Thanks. I'm guessing this is when happened when hardware vendors stopped making phones with removable batteries then? I would be really interested in any links you might have yes. I did a cursory search but came up with little more than a stackexchange question.
    - kornhole 4y ago
      Both Ithings and Google devices have a find my phone feature that works even when the phone is off. That is something you can test yourself if you have one. Obviously for this to work, the phone is sending its location even when it is supposedly off. It seems that the company in this reporting is not getting data from Goopple yet, but those who are really concerned about not being followed are careful with this and use different operating systems. https://www.xda-developers.com/iphone-findable-turned-off/ https://www.xda-developers.com/iphone-findable-turned-off/

GekkePrutser 4y ago

The latest iphones even can be tracked while off through apples find my network (Bluetooth based). It can be switched off. But it poses some interesting questions.