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I think you answered your own question about what this is supposed to tell us. I’d love my child to long being an astronaut, and all the studying and life choi

by pqdbr 4y ago

I think you answered your own question about what this is supposed to tell us. I’d love my child to long being an astronaut, and all the studying and life choices it will impose on them. Can’t say the same about becoming a TikToker.

Foobar8568 4y ago
How is it different than making videogames? Is James Hoffmann a YouTuber or a batista or an entrepreneur? I don't watch social medias to know a "better" example or not too contrived .
woodruffw 4y ago
I'm not going to argue that really wanting to be an astronaut won't have better life outcomes. My point is that asking young people what they "plan to become" is very different from what they really want (much less intend to achieve). If the two were the same, we'd have a lot of firefighters and astronauts.
- Georgelemental 4y ago
  It shows who they consider role models, at the very least. I would rather my child idolize an astronaut or a firefighter than a social media star.
  - woodruffw 4y ago
    We all want the things we consider good for our children. I want my hypothetical ones to read Buddenbrooks, but I know they're probably going to watch YouTube instead. Social media stars are an extension of fame, a basic human desire. It's not surprising (or even particularly civically harmful) that fame is now associated with TikTok influencers rather than movie stars. Your child is about as likely to become either.
    - JCharante 4y ago
      Jonny Kim (Navy Seal, MD from Harvard, Astronaut) is also famous, he'd be a better role model. Accomplishing 1/3 of what he's done is impressive in its own right.
      - woodruffw 4y ago
        Who in this thread is claiming that astronauts are not impressive? Of course they are, especially to me as an adult. As a 16 year old, I wouldn't give a damn that Jonny Kim has an MD from Harvard. I did, however, find myself impressed by the fact that Chuck Yeager broke the sound barrier while lying about his broken ribs[1]. I have no idea which (if any) college he went to. [1]: https://medium.com/knowledge-stew/when-chuck-yeager-broke-the-sound-barrier-with-broken-ribs-fb158bbe3411 https://medium.com/knowledge-stew/when-chuck-yeager-broke-th...

by pqdbr 4y ago

Foobar8568 4y ago

How is it different than making videogames? Is James Hoffmann a YouTuber or a batista or an entrepreneur? I don't watch social medias to know a "better" example or not too contrived .

woodruffw 4y ago

I'm not going to argue that really wanting to be an astronaut won't have better life outcomes. My point is that asking young people what they "plan to become" is very different from what they really want (much less intend to achieve). If the two were the same, we'd have a lot of firefighters and astronauts.

Georgelemental 4y ago
It shows who they consider role models, at the very least. I would rather my child idolize an astronaut or a firefighter than a social media star.
- woodruffw 4y ago
  We all want the things we consider good for our children. I want my hypothetical ones to read Buddenbrooks, but I know they're probably going to watch YouTube instead. Social media stars are an extension of fame, a basic human desire. It's not surprising (or even particularly civically harmful) that fame is now associated with TikTok influencers rather than movie stars. Your child is about as likely to become either.
  - JCharante 4y ago
    Jonny Kim (Navy Seal, MD from Harvard, Astronaut) is also famous, he'd be a better role model. Accomplishing 1/3 of what he's done is impressive in its own right.
    - woodruffw 4y ago
      Who in this thread is claiming that astronauts are not impressive? Of course they are, especially to me as an adult. As a 16 year old, I wouldn't give a damn that Jonny Kim has an MD from Harvard. I did, however, find myself impressed by the fact that Chuck Yeager broke the sound barrier while lying about his broken ribs[1]. I have no idea which (if any) college he went to. [1]: https://medium.com/knowledge-stew/when-chuck-yeager-broke-the-sound-barrier-with-broken-ribs-fb158bbe3411 https://medium.com/knowledge-stew/when-chuck-yeager-broke-th...